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I strongly believe that as Krugman pointed out, if Greece were to exit the EUR, Germany would have pushed for a Eurozone exit as well, probably issue some sort
by atmosx 11y ago
I strongly believe that as Krugman pointed out, if Greece were to exit the EUR, Germany would have pushed for a Eurozone exit as well, probably issue some sort of embargo and made everything possible to made an example out of Greece. It already did actually.
I think that was the meeting all about: They told Tsipras that he either sign a deal or face oblivion one way or another.
Greece had no real allies.
The people in Greece made a choice last week and are ready to make many difficult choices. The problem is that we (me and other citizens) are caught between the hammer and the anvil, on one side we have Europeans who don't care and on the other a corrupted government who doesn't want to take on anyone, oligarchs (ship-owners, tax-evaders, etc.). See my other comment above for details. (to be posted in a while).
- pjmlp 11y agoI care, and lots of us that know Greece(Portuguese) also care. Unfortunately there are also lots of us, including our government, that like to pretend that our country is better and doesn't do the same kind of corruption like most Mediterranean countries. Like the Porto mayor yesterday stated, pretending that we are the most well behaved poor in poor's street.
- claudius 11y ago> The problem is that we (me and other citizens) are caught between the hammer and the anvil, on one side we have Europeans who don't care and on the other a corrupted government who doesn't want to take on anyone, oligarchs (ship-owners, tax-evaders, etc.). So because you don’t want to fix your government and continue the oligarchic corruption, the rest of Europe must pay? Please explain why Germany should continue to pour money into Greece if, after five years of known problems, there are still oligarchs and tax evaders there.
- atmosx 11y agoHow do you propose fixing our current government when the oligarchs are strongly supported by the TROIKA[1]? [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Christoforakos#Auslieferungsverfahren https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Christoforakos#Auslief...
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- rurban 11y ago> Greece had no real allies. Not now, but they'll have plenty soon, after this German farce. Podemus will win in Spain, the PS on Portugal and let's see what will happen in Italy.