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Either Google thinks Altavista is the best search engine or it has the best SEO

14 points by vaksel 17y ago

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hardik 17y ago
dogpile is coming on #1 for me
- est 17y ago
  Dogpile Web Search AltaVista Ask.com Search Engine - Better Web Search
- vaksel 17y ago
  you are probably logged in and it's giving you custom results. Dogpile is #2 for me. On bing #1 result is Dogpile On Yahoo #1 result is Yahoo On Dogpile, #1 result is Dogpile On Ask, #1 result is Ask On Altavista, #1 result is Yahoo
  - tfh 17y ago
    I'm not logged in and I'm also getting Dogpile as #1 result. I hate that when google alters my results according to my country/login.
    - txxxxd 17y ago
      Out of curiosity, why does this bother you?
      - bartl 17y ago
        What guarantees that the results are better for you? I feel I can trust the "results for everybody" better as are likely more thoroughly verified.
      - tfh 17y ago
        It bothers me to get different search result every time I'm on another computer. It's like surfing another internet..
      - meatbag 17y ago
        It is presumptuous, and sets a possibly dangerous precedent.
  - julio_the_squid 17y ago
    It's not a result of being logged in. I was logged in, and signed out, and dogpile was still above altavista when I refreshed the page. However, when I cleared my cookies, Altavista and dogpile switched places. Most likely due to this : http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=977461 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=977461 Who knows why Google calculated that my behavior indicates I'd be more interested in dogpile...
tengkahwee 17y ago
If that's the case Bing probably has the worst. The excerpt reads "Visual Search · » · » · » · » · ◄ · ►. ©. The USS Missouri and Arizona Memorial in Pearl..."
chrischen 17y ago
Well Altavista used to be the best search engine.
landyman 17y ago
I think its more impressive that Google doesn't even rank itself in the top 10
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- kajecounterhack 17y ago
  Hm I think this is Google making sense: why display itself as a result? You're obviously not looking for Google if you're using Google to find a search engine.
breck 17y ago
DuckDuckGo was only 2 after Google. Way to go!
archon810 17y ago
Well, it seems Altavista somehow has a PR of 9. The only other site with the PR of 9 on that page is Yahoo but Yahoo's page doesn't seem to mention "search engine" as explicitly as Altavista, so the ranking makes sense. How in the world Altavista has a PR of 9 is a mystery though.
- meatbag 17y ago
  "...the ranking makes sense." PR and rank are often correlated, but PR is not a good predictor of actual rank. "How in the world Altavista has a PR of 9 is a mystery though." A large volume of natural links is probably the explanation here. altavista.com probably ended up in some trusted repository as well, which may render it relatively immune to "penalties" or other dampening factors.
c00p3r 17y ago
It is the oldest one.
m0th87 17y ago
Funny, AltaVista doesn't seem to think too highly of itself: http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&q=search+engine&kgs=1&kls=0 http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&q=search+e...
timothychung 17y ago
Due to Google's preference to key word search at the moment? Google doesn't like semantic now as I recall someone posted a link saying that maybe half a year ago.
chanux 17y ago
For me, #1 A news related to GOOG #2 Dogpile #3 Altavista But for the query 'search' Altavista is the #1 and Google is next to it.
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meatbag 17y ago
6,310,000 old backlinks, many of which come from highly trusted sources, might have some effect.
noelchurchill 17y ago
According to the google keyword tool, approximately 368,000 people search for the exact phrase [search engine] each month worldwide, and 135,000 in the US. I wonder what those people are really expecting to find when they search Google for search engine. I would think the Wikipedia result would be the most relevant.

14 points by vaksel 17y ago

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hardik 17y ago

dogpile is coming on #1 for me

est 17y ago
Dogpile Web Search AltaVista Ask.com Search Engine - Better Web Search
vaksel 17y ago
you are probably logged in and it's giving you custom results. Dogpile is #2 for me. On bing #1 result is Dogpile On Yahoo #1 result is Yahoo On Dogpile, #1 result is Dogpile On Ask, #1 result is Ask On Altavista, #1 result is Yahoo
- tfh 17y ago
  I'm not logged in and I'm also getting Dogpile as #1 result. I hate that when google alters my results according to my country/login.
  - txxxxd 17y ago
    Out of curiosity, why does this bother you?
    - bartl 17y ago
      What guarantees that the results are better for you? I feel I can trust the "results for everybody" better as are likely more thoroughly verified.
    - tfh 17y ago
      It bothers me to get different search result every time I'm on another computer. It's like surfing another internet..
    - meatbag 17y ago
      It is presumptuous, and sets a possibly dangerous precedent.
- julio_the_squid 17y ago
  It's not a result of being logged in. I was logged in, and signed out, and dogpile was still above altavista when I refreshed the page. However, when I cleared my cookies, Altavista and dogpile switched places. Most likely due to this : http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=977461 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=977461 Who knows why Google calculated that my behavior indicates I'd be more interested in dogpile...

tengkahwee 17y ago

If that's the case Bing probably has the worst. The excerpt reads "Visual Search · » · » · » · » · ◄ · ►. ©. The USS Missouri and Arizona Memorial in Pearl..."

chrischen 17y ago

Well Altavista used to be the best search engine.

landyman 17y ago

I think its more impressive that Google doesn't even rank itself in the top 10

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kajecounterhack 17y ago
Hm I think this is Google making sense: why display itself as a result? You're obviously not looking for Google if you're using Google to find a search engine.

breck 17y ago

DuckDuckGo was only 2 after Google. Way to go!

archon810 17y ago

Well, it seems Altavista somehow has a PR of 9. The only other site with the PR of 9 on that page is Yahoo but Yahoo's page doesn't seem to mention "search engine" as explicitly as Altavista, so the ranking makes sense. How in the world Altavista has a PR of 9 is a mystery though.

meatbag 17y ago
"...the ranking makes sense." PR and rank are often correlated, but PR is not a good predictor of actual rank. "How in the world Altavista has a PR of 9 is a mystery though." A large volume of natural links is probably the explanation here. altavista.com probably ended up in some trusted repository as well, which may render it relatively immune to "penalties" or other dampening factors.

c00p3r 17y ago

It is the oldest one.

m0th87 17y ago

Funny, AltaVista doesn't seem to think too highly of itself: http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&q=search+engine&kgs=1&kls=0 http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&q=search+e...

timothychung 17y ago

Due to Google's preference to key word search at the moment? Google doesn't like semantic now as I recall someone posted a link saying that maybe half a year ago.

chanux 17y ago

For me, #1 A news related to GOOG #2 Dogpile #3 Altavista But for the query 'search' Altavista is the #1 and Google is next to it.

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meatbag 17y ago

6,310,000 old backlinks, many of which come from highly trusted sources, might have some effect.

noelchurchill 17y ago

According to the google keyword tool, approximately 368,000 people search for the exact phrase [search engine] each month worldwide, and 135,000 in the US. I wonder what those people are really expecting to find when they search Google for search engine. I would think the Wikipedia result would be the most relevant.