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> But Ms. Pao says that the most virulent detractors on the site are a vocal minority, and that the vast majority of Reddit users are uninterested in what unfol

by glogla 11y ago

> But Ms. Pao says that the most virulent detractors on the site are a vocal minority, and that the vast majority of Reddit users are uninterested in what unfolded over the past 48 hours. I think she is trying to paint the "blackout" as the same as the fatpeoplehate banning, which created similar, but different shitstrom. Some people even believe that. But this is different - the fatpeoplehate incident was about hateful people no longer being able to feely practice their hate and harassment. Blackout is about people realizing they are on the ship, and the captain has no idea what she's doing, and the ship has quite a few icebergs in the way.

kybernetyk 11y ago
>Blackout is about people realizing they are on the ship, and the captain has no idea what she's doing, and the ship has quite a few icebergs in the way. Luckily there's many other ships you can jump off to if the iceberg gets too close. People migrated from Digg to Reddit. People will migrate from Reddit to whatever will come next if the need should arise.
- iaw 11y ago
  I was just discussing the phenomenon the other day. A question arose about what value Reddit (the company/site) provides vs. it's community. I think we've all be on the internet long enough to see vibrant communities (usenet, forums, MUDs, myspace, etc.) bloom and wilt away. If Reddit cannot provide a high level of value to the people that generate content within the community they will migrate away to an environment that does.
  - jimhefferon 11y ago
    One of the things it provides is that it is like Usenet in that you can find an area of interest (or passion), or two or three, and not really have much to do with the rest of the site. Unlike Usenet, though, it provides simple editing, pictures, video, and some other things people want. But search sucks.
- pbhjpbhj 11y ago
  Digg just announced a trial of a new comment system - http://digg.com/2015/talk-to-us http://digg.com/2015/talk-to-us. I wonder if they received an influx of traffic following the Great Reddit Blackout of 2015 and thought it was worth investigating if they could spin an immigration to match the emigration from Digg after their own past community mistrust issues.
- swalsh 11y ago
  I just found out about Hubski today, I think for me personally it fills the gap that reddit is currently filling. It feels like HN level discussion, but without the tech exclusivity. There's a lot of other former Redditors making the migration there too.
  - TheLoneWolfling 11y ago
    I tried Hubski, couldn't get over my frustration with the interface. I don't like voting restrictions in general (yes, that includes here. There's a reason I'm not more active here), and Hubski is no exception. That being said, if you like it, go for it.
fizixer 11y ago
At the same time this might be not be that different, i.e., customers of a company interfering with the internal decisions. If firing a certain employee is that bad for the company, investors would be a lot more upset than the customers. (and TBH, the likelihood that one single individual is that integral to the company is practically zero; not saying it was a good decision; I don't think enough details have been made public). Even though I admit reddit is a strange place, somewhat halfway between a company and a governing body with democracy-like structure. Still, given the sheer amount of userbase, it's unlikely that the activism of the mods and a chuck of active users (who are upvoting the boycott related posts) would seriously affect it (i.e., bring the website down in the long term). Probably such internal decisions would change the flavor/nature of the website.
- wutbrodo 11y ago
  It's a misreading of the situation to suggest that the uproar is over Victoria's firing per se. It was simply the spark that set off dissatisfaction that already existed about the (perceived) extractive relation that the company has towards its "volunteer" labor. To use a clear topical analogy, people weren't upset about Michael Brown per se to the point of rioting in the streets. His case was just a rallying point for frustrations over perceived systemic police abuse of power.

by glogla 11y ago

kybernetyk 11y ago

>Blackout is about people realizing they are on the ship, and the captain has no idea what she's doing, and the ship has quite a few icebergs in the way. Luckily there's many other ships you can jump off to if the iceberg gets too close. People migrated from Digg to Reddit. People will migrate from Reddit to whatever will come next if the need should arise.

iaw 11y ago
I was just discussing the phenomenon the other day. A question arose about what value Reddit (the company/site) provides vs. it's community. I think we've all be on the internet long enough to see vibrant communities (usenet, forums, MUDs, myspace, etc.) bloom and wilt away. If Reddit cannot provide a high level of value to the people that generate content within the community they will migrate away to an environment that does.
- jimhefferon 11y ago
  One of the things it provides is that it is like Usenet in that you can find an area of interest (or passion), or two or three, and not really have much to do with the rest of the site. Unlike Usenet, though, it provides simple editing, pictures, video, and some other things people want. But search sucks.
pbhjpbhj 11y ago
Digg just announced a trial of a new comment system - http://digg.com/2015/talk-to-us http://digg.com/2015/talk-to-us. I wonder if they received an influx of traffic following the Great Reddit Blackout of 2015 and thought it was worth investigating if they could spin an immigration to match the emigration from Digg after their own past community mistrust issues.
swalsh 11y ago
I just found out about Hubski today, I think for me personally it fills the gap that reddit is currently filling. It feels like HN level discussion, but without the tech exclusivity. There's a lot of other former Redditors making the migration there too.
- TheLoneWolfling 11y ago
  I tried Hubski, couldn't get over my frustration with the interface. I don't like voting restrictions in general (yes, that includes here. There's a reason I'm not more active here), and Hubski is no exception. That being said, if you like it, go for it.

fizixer 11y ago

At the same time this might be not be that different, i.e., customers of a company interfering with the internal decisions. If firing a certain employee is that bad for the company, investors would be a lot more upset than the customers. (and TBH, the likelihood that one single individual is that integral to the company is practically zero; not saying it was a good decision; I don't think enough details have been made public). Even though I admit reddit is a strange place, somewhat halfway between a company and a governing body with democracy-like structure. Still, given the sheer amount of userbase, it's unlikely that the activism of the mods and a chuck of active users (who are upvoting the boycott related posts) would seriously affect it (i.e., bring the website down in the long term). Probably such internal decisions would change the flavor/nature of the website.

wutbrodo 11y ago
It's a misreading of the situation to suggest that the uproar is over Victoria's firing per se. It was simply the spark that set off dissatisfaction that already existed about the (perceived) extractive relation that the company has towards its "volunteer" labor. To use a clear topical analogy, people weren't upset about Michael Brown per se to the point of rioting in the streets. His case was just a rallying point for frustrations over perceived systemic police abuse of power.