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"EDIT: Downvoting me as a way of saying "I disagree" is immature." Downvoting for disagreement is officially sanctioned on this site. It's annoying, but that'

"EDIT: Downvoting me as a way of saying "I disagree" is immature." Downvoting for disagreement is officially sanctioned on this site. It's annoying, but that's how it is.

madez 11y ago
If HN wanted to reserve Downvotes for something else than the opposite of an upvote, they shouldn't be graphically represented and placed and summed with upvotes like they are now.
- waterlesscloud 11y ago
  I've complained about the culture that results from using downvotes for disagreement a number of times. I get zero response from the mods and numerous downvotes for my troubles. I'm done fighting it. I just downvote anything I even slightly disagree with and move on. It's what the mods apparently want.
  - oldmanjay 11y ago
    It's interesting that you see no room for nuance in the mod system. Definitely doesn't need to work the way you're expressing it here. In particular, your petulant tone makes me think you wield downvotes vengefully. Downvotes work best with an emotionally mature community. Fortunately HN seems mature enough that discussion never really go off the rails, individuals with your attitude notwithstanding.
    - waterlesscloud 11y ago
      Downvotes derail conversations here several times a day, your condescending tone notwithstanding. Apparently everyone is fine with that. So I see no reason not to be myself.
  - DanBC 11y ago
    It's something that gets frequently discussed on HN. You might want to look back over the gajillion threads about it.
- twoodfin 11y ago
  IMHO an upvote shouldn't mean "agree". I downvote lots of uninteresting, poorly articulated, or middlebrow comments with which I nominally agree.
- pbhjpbhj 11y ago
  It used to be that one could vote towards the score you felt a comment deserved - that felt much healthier IMO and gave what seemed like a much better view of the community opinion. I upvote everything greyed out that is well articulated or makes a point or expresses an opinion that is not well represented elsewhere in the thread.
DanBC 11y ago
PG did also say this about how downvotes for disagreement are sub-optimal: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1057347 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1057347

"EDIT: Downvoting me as a way of saying "I disagree" is immature." Downvoting for disagreement is officially sanctioned on this site. It's annoying, but that's how it is.

madez 11y ago

If HN wanted to reserve Downvotes for something else than the opposite of an upvote, they shouldn't be graphically represented and placed and summed with upvotes like they are now.

waterlesscloud 11y ago
I've complained about the culture that results from using downvotes for disagreement a number of times. I get zero response from the mods and numerous downvotes for my troubles. I'm done fighting it. I just downvote anything I even slightly disagree with and move on. It's what the mods apparently want.
- oldmanjay 11y ago
  It's interesting that you see no room for nuance in the mod system. Definitely doesn't need to work the way you're expressing it here. In particular, your petulant tone makes me think you wield downvotes vengefully. Downvotes work best with an emotionally mature community. Fortunately HN seems mature enough that discussion never really go off the rails, individuals with your attitude notwithstanding.
  - waterlesscloud 11y ago
    Downvotes derail conversations here several times a day, your condescending tone notwithstanding. Apparently everyone is fine with that. So I see no reason not to be myself.
- DanBC 11y ago
  It's something that gets frequently discussed on HN. You might want to look back over the gajillion threads about it.
twoodfin 11y ago
IMHO an upvote shouldn't mean "agree". I downvote lots of uninteresting, poorly articulated, or middlebrow comments with which I nominally agree.
pbhjpbhj 11y ago
It used to be that one could vote towards the score you felt a comment deserved - that felt much healthier IMO and gave what seemed like a much better view of the community opinion. I upvote everything greyed out that is well articulated or makes a point or expresses an opinion that is not well represented elsewhere in the thread.

DanBC 11y ago

PG did also say this about how downvotes for disagreement are sub-optimal: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1057347 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1057347