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Talking about a hobby as if you still do it, in order to get the job and provide for your family, is not a lie anyone sane would say matters. Next time, don't s

by ovi256 11y ago

Talking about a hobby as if you still do it, in order to get the job and provide for your family, is not a lie anyone sane would say matters. Next time, don't sweat it.

skrebbel 11y ago
Seriously? You'd take a job that requires that you lie about your personal life?
- ak39 11y ago
  Agreed on your incredulity. I've never understood ethics behind such type of advice. File it under Dale Carnegie's "How to win friends and influence people". If there could ever be a treatise on psychopathy, that'd be it.
- hyperpape 11y ago
  I wouldn't defend hiring based on hobbies, but it's pretty easy to make a comment like "I really like X, but these days I mostly do stuff with my family..." and it's a lot more human sounding than "I have no hobbies."
- IshKebab 11y ago
  No job requires you to lie about your personal life, but if they're willing to give you credit for a lie that doesn't matter at all - why the hell not? Although having said that, judging you so much on your "fit" is a pretty big red flag.
  - ak39 11y ago
    It may not matter to them at all, but shouldn't it matter to you?
- notNow 11y ago
  With this stance, you and the OP are uncompromising on this issue which can be viewed as good or bad depending on context but I think in this case it's very unfavorable. Everyone has hobbies just take the time to think about it and you will come up with something better than "none" which is not really exciting to hear and might send the wrong signal to the recruiter that you are not interested enough in the opening position.
arenaninja 11y ago
Thanks. I'm aware it's always an option, but I've been lucky so far to never be in a position where I need that job. The greater implication of my post, IMO, is that as I age I'm more experienced but less attractive to some employers solely based on my age. I already look about five years older than I am, so perhaps my career will be much more short-lived than I anticipate and I will have no say in it. That actually terrifies me.
spacemanmatt 11y ago
Sure, we all know how to get the job. That doesn't make the expectation or the question less specious.
WalterSear 11y ago
I guess I'm insane, then.

by ovi256 11y ago

Talking about a hobby as if you still do it, in order to get the job and provide for your family, is not a lie anyone sane would say matters. Next time, don't sweat it.

skrebbel 11y ago

Seriously? You'd take a job that requires that you lie about your personal life?

ak39 11y ago
Agreed on your incredulity. I've never understood ethics behind such type of advice. File it under Dale Carnegie's "How to win friends and influence people". If there could ever be a treatise on psychopathy, that'd be it.
hyperpape 11y ago
I wouldn't defend hiring based on hobbies, but it's pretty easy to make a comment like "I really like X, but these days I mostly do stuff with my family..." and it's a lot more human sounding than "I have no hobbies."
IshKebab 11y ago
No job requires you to lie about your personal life, but if they're willing to give you credit for a lie that doesn't matter at all - why the hell not? Although having said that, judging you so much on your "fit" is a pretty big red flag.
- ak39 11y ago
  It may not matter to them at all, but shouldn't it matter to you?
notNow 11y ago
With this stance, you and the OP are uncompromising on this issue which can be viewed as good or bad depending on context but I think in this case it's very unfavorable. Everyone has hobbies just take the time to think about it and you will come up with something better than "none" which is not really exciting to hear and might send the wrong signal to the recruiter that you are not interested enough in the opening position.

arenaninja 11y ago

Thanks. I'm aware it's always an option, but I've been lucky so far to never be in a position where I need that job. The greater implication of my post, IMO, is that as I age I'm more experienced but less attractive to some employers solely based on my age. I already look about five years older than I am, so perhaps my career will be much more short-lived than I anticipate and I will have no say in it. That actually terrifies me.

spacemanmatt 11y ago

Sure, we all know how to get the job. That doesn't make the expectation or the question less specious.

WalterSear 11y ago

I guess I'm insane, then.