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Yeah, but in one of the world's top cities, asking for a 3-bed house with garden and fresh air - wtf, why not ask for a hunting forest while you're at it? Do y

by swombat 11y ago

Yeah, but in one of the world's top cities, asking for a 3-bed house with garden and fresh air - wtf, why not ask for a hunting forest while you're at it? Do you ask for a 3-bed house with garden in Manhattan? Do you think a 3-bed house with garden in downtown Tokyo is just a reasonable expectation for the average person? I'd love my 3-bed house with garden just off the Champs Elysés, too, why not. Perhaps one on the space station too. London is one of the world's top cities. If you don't want to live there, fine - but don't bitch about how unfair it is that you can't get some kind of dream property in one of the most desirable places in the world, where tens if not hundreds of millions of people want to live in a space that only supports a fraction of that...

bpodgursky 11y ago
If you don't think a 3 bed house (parents and two kids) and some trivial exposure to nature is a reasonable expectation for a normal worker/employee, that says something sad about this over-urbanization trend.
alkonaut 11y ago
You have to be reasonable about commute times of course. What's reasonable is dependent on the city size, but a 1hr commute in either end of the work day is probably reasonable in big cities, in the biggest ones such as London, Paris or Tokyo you probably have to accept 2h (And if that isn't reasonable to you, you have to move. I could never do a 1.5 or 2h commute). I can only assume that what he meant was that it wasn't reasonable to find a 3bedroom house with a small guarden within reasonable commute distance and reasonable budget. When moving in stockholm I looked for just this, (sub 1h commute, 3bedrooms) and had to make a heatmap for public transit times in order to find the good spots. Needed to be in the orange (40minute travel) to have <1h door-to-door with a 10minute walk to/from public transport. http://commutemap.azurewebsites.net/ http://commutemap.azurewebsites.net/
Nursie 11y ago
I think you've missed the point, entirely. If the city living, for you, outweighs the cramped conditions, poor air and general crowding, then you go for it you urbanite. A lot of people realise after a while that what London has to offer doesn't seem like a good value proposition. That's what the article is about.

by swombat 11y ago

bpodgursky 11y ago

If you don't think a 3 bed house (parents and two kids) and some trivial exposure to nature is a reasonable expectation for a normal worker/employee, that says something sad about this over-urbanization trend.

alkonaut 11y ago

You have to be reasonable about commute times of course. What's reasonable is dependent on the city size, but a 1hr commute in either end of the work day is probably reasonable in big cities, in the biggest ones such as London, Paris or Tokyo you probably have to accept 2h (And if that isn't reasonable to you, you have to move. I could never do a 1.5 or 2h commute). I can only assume that what he meant was that it wasn't reasonable to find a 3bedroom house with a small guarden within reasonable commute distance and reasonable budget. When moving in stockholm I looked for just this, (sub 1h commute, 3bedrooms) and had to make a heatmap for public transit times in order to find the good spots. Needed to be in the orange (40minute travel) to have <1h door-to-door with a 10minute walk to/from public transport. http://commutemap.azurewebsites.net/ http://commutemap.azurewebsites.net/

Nursie 11y ago

I think you've missed the point, entirely. If the city living, for you, outweighs the cramped conditions, poor air and general crowding, then you go for it you urbanite. A lot of people realise after a while that what London has to offer doesn't seem like a good value proposition. That's what the article is about.