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I live in a country where prostitution is legal and not taken as taboo. All I can say is that it makes things easier for everybody. Many use their bodies as a

by dataker 11y ago

I live in a country where prostitution is legal and not taken as taboo. All I can say is that it makes things easier for everybody. Many use their bodies as a "small business", having their own personal marketing, credit card processor and online clients, increasing and improving their portfolio. Because they have such leverage, they end up being strict on what they'd do and even who their client is. In case something goes wrong, they can still go to the police and report the incident.

hackerboos 11y ago
>I live in a country where prostitution is legal and not taken as taboo. I can't think of any country that doesn't take prostitution as taboo. Even in Germany and the Netherlands it is...
- thret 11y ago
  Australia? It is legal here. It isn't something people talk about much, but that doesn't mean it is a taboo.
  - jordigh 11y ago
    Are the prostitutes in Australia typically poor immigrant women? Wealthy, powerful women with a broad spectrum of choices do not typically choose prostitution.
    - spacko 11y ago
      > Wealthy, powerful women with a broad spectrum of choices do not typically choose prostitution. Wealthy, powerful men with a broad spectrum of choices do not typically choose cleaning the toilets at your office.
    - nailer 11y ago
      Urban brothels are the most common type of sex work in Australia, and are legal, inspected (and frequented) by the police, very well paid, and generally women of all classes, primarily born in Australia but also China and other Asian countries. See http://www.nswp.org/sites/nswp.org/files/NSWSexIndustryReportV4.pdf http://www.nswp.org/sites/nswp.org/files/NSWSexIndustryRepor... There are other interesting things including 'Sex workers’ reasons for choosing current workplace' was 'Hours are flexible' and 'the LASH study found no evidence that any of the women had been coerced into working in a brothel' Street walking prostitutes are generally illegal, and unregistered brothels are illegal. Check out http://www.scarletalliance.org.au/research/ http://www.scarletalliance.org.au/research/ for more research.
      - jordigh 11y ago
        According to that study, only 27% of all women are historically from Australia and recently only 18% are. The rest are from China, Thailand, and "other Asian". A few stragglers from elsewhere. A majority of them are unable to speak English competently. It does seem like it's primarily foreigners who cannot get a job. This seems exploitative. And the article you cite doesn't paint a rosy picture of everything being great with legalised prostitution.
  - x0 11y ago
    it is legal, however we still have problems with trafficking. many women from china or hong kong come out here, then the pimps just take their passports. they can't speak a word of english, so there's not much they can do.
  - Someone 11y ago
    Do people exchange tips on brothels to visit at work roughly as easily as they do about restaurants or movies? If not, there is a taboo, if not about visiting a brothel, then about talking about it.
    - thret 11y ago
      It depends on where you work and who you work with. For the most part I'd say it is discussed with about the same frequency as masturbation. That doesn't mean there is a taboo - just that it is often inappropriate to discuss at work.
- rdsnsca 11y ago
  I bet he's referring to Japan.
psykovsky 11y ago
The Netherlands is great in that respect. The sex crimes rate is very low because of it. I think Belgium also has the same "system" as NL.
jordigh 11y ago
> All I can say is that it makes things easier for everybody. Which country is that? The Netherlands, Austria and Germany, for example, all have horrible trafficking problems. In Nevada, the women are ostracised and harrassed by the police at the legal brothels. In New Zealand, the police cannot tell the difference between legal prostitution and illegal pimping. So which country are you in that is doing better than these with legalised prostitution?
- mschuster91 11y ago
  > Which country is that? The Netherlands, Austria and Germany, for example, all have horrible trafficking problems. Well in Germany the main trafficking problems is Africans. They need to work something and because our rotten legal system prohibits them from working for months after they have arrived, the men end up dealing pot and the women on the streets. And Romanian/Bulgarians... well, the men work on day-jobs for ultra low pay, often illegal, and the women go on the streets. Everything's better than the conditions where they come from.
- facepalm 11y ago
  Do you have some numbers+sources? I live in Germany and the official statement from the police seems to be that it is not actually a huge problem.
  - Forlien 11y ago
    I'm just following links others have posted, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Germany#Human_trafficking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Germany#Human_.... Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_Germany links to a US Trafficking in Persons Report 2010. Here are some quotes: "Ninety percent of identified victims of trafficking for commercial sexual exploitation came from Europe, including 28 percent from Germany ..." "... approximately one third of identified sex trafficking victims reported that they had agreed initially to engage in prostitution." "Police estimate that gangs brought around 1,000 Chinese people to Germany over the past decade and forced them to work in restaurants under exploitative conditions."
xacaxulu 11y ago
It's wrong to deny women a means to safely practice a trade and participate in the greater economy. When you make it illegal, you force them underground and remove any protections they could have had.

by dataker 11y ago

hackerboos 11y ago

>I live in a country where prostitution is legal and not taken as taboo. I can't think of any country that doesn't take prostitution as taboo. Even in Germany and the Netherlands it is...

thret 11y ago
Australia? It is legal here. It isn't something people talk about much, but that doesn't mean it is a taboo.
- jordigh 11y ago
  Are the prostitutes in Australia typically poor immigrant women? Wealthy, powerful women with a broad spectrum of choices do not typically choose prostitution.
  - spacko 11y ago
    > Wealthy, powerful women with a broad spectrum of choices do not typically choose prostitution. Wealthy, powerful men with a broad spectrum of choices do not typically choose cleaning the toilets at your office.
  - nailer 11y ago
    Urban brothels are the most common type of sex work in Australia, and are legal, inspected (and frequented) by the police, very well paid, and generally women of all classes, primarily born in Australia but also China and other Asian countries. See http://www.nswp.org/sites/nswp.org/files/NSWSexIndustryReportV4.pdf http://www.nswp.org/sites/nswp.org/files/NSWSexIndustryRepor... There are other interesting things including 'Sex workers’ reasons for choosing current workplace' was 'Hours are flexible' and 'the LASH study found no evidence that any of the women had been coerced into working in a brothel' Street walking prostitutes are generally illegal, and unregistered brothels are illegal. Check out http://www.scarletalliance.org.au/research/ http://www.scarletalliance.org.au/research/ for more research.
    - jordigh 11y ago
      According to that study, only 27% of all women are historically from Australia and recently only 18% are. The rest are from China, Thailand, and "other Asian". A few stragglers from elsewhere. A majority of them are unable to speak English competently. It does seem like it's primarily foreigners who cannot get a job. This seems exploitative. And the article you cite doesn't paint a rosy picture of everything being great with legalised prostitution.
- x0 11y ago
  it is legal, however we still have problems with trafficking. many women from china or hong kong come out here, then the pimps just take their passports. they can't speak a word of english, so there's not much they can do.
- Someone 11y ago
  Do people exchange tips on brothels to visit at work roughly as easily as they do about restaurants or movies? If not, there is a taboo, if not about visiting a brothel, then about talking about it.
  - thret 11y ago
    It depends on where you work and who you work with. For the most part I'd say it is discussed with about the same frequency as masturbation. That doesn't mean there is a taboo - just that it is often inappropriate to discuss at work.
rdsnsca 11y ago
I bet he's referring to Japan.

psykovsky 11y ago

The Netherlands is great in that respect. The sex crimes rate is very low because of it. I think Belgium also has the same "system" as NL.

jordigh 11y ago

> All I can say is that it makes things easier for everybody. Which country is that? The Netherlands, Austria and Germany, for example, all have horrible trafficking problems. In Nevada, the women are ostracised and harrassed by the police at the legal brothels. In New Zealand, the police cannot tell the difference between legal prostitution and illegal pimping. So which country are you in that is doing better than these with legalised prostitution?

mschuster91 11y ago
> Which country is that? The Netherlands, Austria and Germany, for example, all have horrible trafficking problems. Well in Germany the main trafficking problems is Africans. They need to work something and because our rotten legal system prohibits them from working for months after they have arrived, the men end up dealing pot and the women on the streets. And Romanian/Bulgarians... well, the men work on day-jobs for ultra low pay, often illegal, and the women go on the streets. Everything's better than the conditions where they come from.
facepalm 11y ago
Do you have some numbers+sources? I live in Germany and the official statement from the police seems to be that it is not actually a huge problem.
- Forlien 11y ago
  I'm just following links others have posted, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Germany#Human_trafficking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Germany#Human_.... Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_Germany links to a US Trafficking in Persons Report 2010. Here are some quotes: "Ninety percent of identified victims of trafficking for commercial sexual exploitation came from Europe, including 28 percent from Germany ..." "... approximately one third of identified sex trafficking victims reported that they had agreed initially to engage in prostitution." "Police estimate that gangs brought around 1,000 Chinese people to Germany over the past decade and forced them to work in restaurants under exploitative conditions."

xacaxulu 11y ago

It's wrong to deny women a means to safely practice a trade and participate in the greater economy. When you make it illegal, you force them underground and remove any protections they could have had.