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You'd think a look at employment rates of science and engineering graduates, as seen in your third link, would help, but because of affirmative action that data
by SamReidHughes 11y ago
You'd think a look at employment rates of science and engineering graduates, as seen in your third link, would help, but because of affirmative action that data's kind of spoiled.
- geofft 11y agoOK, sure, but in the absence of affirmative action, are black high schoolers going into science and engineering programs at rates commensurate with their aptitude and interest compared with non-black high schoolers? Obviously we're a bit off-topic from codes of conduct at the moment. But the specific claim I was responding to was that minorities and disadvantaged groups are not being excluded from CS today in the same way as they have been marginalized from society for millennia. You can draw a fairly straightforward line of causality from imperialism and slavery and Reconstruction and Jim Crow to, e.g., why fewer black kids in elementary school learned programming in the '90s via their parents' UNIX account from the local university and reading their parents' textbooks (which is how I originally got into CS as a child, and I've heard similar stories from several of my peers).
- ralfd 11y agoWhy then are overproportional so many Asians in IT? They are most often similarly coming from an immigrant background and had no "parents with a UNIX account".