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Let's do a reductio-style thought experiment: what if everyone was depressed? That's obviously a business concern. The standard argument for socialism follows

Let's do a reductio-style thought experiment: what if everyone was depressed? That's obviously a business concern. The standard argument for socialism follows from the same reductio: what if everyone was happy? That would be GREAT for business.

adventured 11y ago
The second one is not true. Utopia of happiness would result in vast stagnation. Agitation, annoyance, something needing fixed, imperfection, desire for more / self-improvement, etc. is a critical root of invention and creativity. Ideally not everyone is perfectly happy all at the same time. And it should be noted that is not the same as saying that everyone should never be happy. Rather, that it's incredibly valuable to have dissatisfied people in society - they're often the ones that break with the status quo and push humanity forward.
Sideloader 11y ago
You are an idiot and I am so fucking glad I never have to work under assholes like you ever again. Oh, nice straw man you've built. Because treating employees like human beings = slippery slope to socialism. The level of fail in American management culture boggles the mind. These sad fools don't get that employee productivity and, thus, the company's earnings, would improve if they treated people with basic respect. An employee who actually wants to be at work is much more productive than the person who dreads coming to work every day. A lot of managers are assholes just because they can be and they should be fired on sight because their incompetence drags the entire team down and saddles the company with a shitty reputation. A miserable demotivated workforce plus a bad reputation in the industry (all of which could easily have been avoided) is like regularly shovelling bundles of $100 bills into the basement incinerator. Sadly, many companies shovel many bundles into many fires all over the nation and then promote the lead shoveller so he can start burning $1000 bundles.
- DanBC 11y ago
  You've completely misread the post you're replying to, which is asking for managers to be compassionate to their staff. You've also done so in a very aggressive way, which violates the HN guidelines. Please don't do that.

adventured 11y ago

The second one is not true. Utopia of happiness would result in vast stagnation. Agitation, annoyance, something needing fixed, imperfection, desire for more / self-improvement, etc. is a critical root of invention and creativity. Ideally not everyone is perfectly happy all at the same time. And it should be noted that is not the same as saying that everyone should never be happy. Rather, that it's incredibly valuable to have dissatisfied people in society - they're often the ones that break with the status quo and push humanity forward.

Sideloader 11y ago

You are an idiot and I am so fucking glad I never have to work under assholes like you ever again. Oh, nice straw man you've built. Because treating employees like human beings = slippery slope to socialism. The level of fail in American management culture boggles the mind. These sad fools don't get that employee productivity and, thus, the company's earnings, would improve if they treated people with basic respect. An employee who actually wants to be at work is much more productive than the person who dreads coming to work every day. A lot of managers are assholes just because they can be and they should be fired on sight because their incompetence drags the entire team down and saddles the company with a shitty reputation. A miserable demotivated workforce plus a bad reputation in the industry (all of which could easily have been avoided) is like regularly shovelling bundles of $100 bills into the basement incinerator. Sadly, many companies shovel many bundles into many fires all over the nation and then promote the lead shoveller so he can start burning $1000 bundles.

DanBC 11y ago
You've completely misread the post you're replying to, which is asking for managers to be compassionate to their staff. You've also done so in a very aggressive way, which violates the HN guidelines. Please don't do that.