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No one is forcing you go to (\d)chan. Hate speech is an easy target. But the censoring and anticompetitive practices have spread further than that. Google, Ap

No one is forcing you go to (\d)chan. Hate speech is an easy target. But the censoring and anticompetitive practices have spread further than that. Google, Apple, Facebook, can change their ToS to bring down potential competitors. They can remove your app for any reason, block access to their APIs, and ban you for posting content that leads to your own external page. It's happened plenty, and Reddit is no exception. These guys want you to live in their closed ecosystems where they control who the winners and losers are and what information is seen.

MBCook 11y ago
No, but 8chan reaches out to the real world and other forums and people end up receiving death threats. Makes it REALLY HARD to support anonymity online, as it often seems like more people get horribly harassed or SWATed than we get benefits from anonymous whistleblowers and such.
- codesushi42 11y ago
  Sounds like the same argument that the threat of terrorism makes it really hard to support civil liberties and personal privacy. Same old rhetoric. Pretty scary that a growing number of people seem to share the same opinion.
  - MBCook 11y ago
    I suppose you're right. I don't think I'd make the call to actually do it, but things have gotten so bad in the last year I'm just exasperated. And since law enforcement has been so apathetic/ineffective at dealing with even the most blatant cases that the negative externalities that would normally be there (arrests, social pressure, etc) can't seem to keep the dangerous behavior in check. Don't know what else to do. Can't ignore it, and it's not getting better. Posting about how it's bad isn't useful/doesn't accomplish anything. Actively engaging has proven to very dangerous to people and doesn't seem to have helped. Sometimes the call for censorship is a purposeful play to stamp out or control a group, sometimes it's just exasperation at a lack of any other idea of how to deal with a situation.
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MBCook 11y ago

No, but 8chan reaches out to the real world and other forums and people end up receiving death threats. Makes it REALLY HARD to support anonymity online, as it often seems like more people get horribly harassed or SWATed than we get benefits from anonymous whistleblowers and such.

codesushi42 11y ago
Sounds like the same argument that the threat of terrorism makes it really hard to support civil liberties and personal privacy. Same old rhetoric. Pretty scary that a growing number of people seem to share the same opinion.
- MBCook 11y ago
  I suppose you're right. I don't think I'd make the call to actually do it, but things have gotten so bad in the last year I'm just exasperated. And since law enforcement has been so apathetic/ineffective at dealing with even the most blatant cases that the negative externalities that would normally be there (arrests, social pressure, etc) can't seem to keep the dangerous behavior in check. Don't know what else to do. Can't ignore it, and it's not getting better. Posting about how it's bad isn't useful/doesn't accomplish anything. Actively engaging has proven to very dangerous to people and doesn't seem to have helped. Sometimes the call for censorship is a purposeful play to stamp out or control a group, sometimes it's just exasperation at a lack of any other idea of how to deal with a situation.

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