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Unfortunately today, integrating in society means being liked and for that, you must blend in and look similar to other people. People feel much stronger when t
by jokoon 11y ago
Unfortunately today, integrating in society means being liked and for that, you must blend in and look similar to other people. People feel much stronger when they can see they are part of the larger group, and like to confirm their norms as correct and will always unconsciously exclude minorities or people who are off. Animals do exactly the same thing: groups of dogs will never tolerate cats and vice versa. One cat can tolerate a dog, but never in groups.
That's why law was invented, to put some order into the zoo and transform it into civilization. The real political issue is to make people have faith in society and leave their culture at home.
The hardest difficulty for minorities is to not feel rejected, and to have faith in the law and the democratic system. There has been real historical progress towards legal statuses, but it's true that you can't really prevent people from behaving like social animals and make sure they behave like citizens first, social animal second.
The real intellectual fight, is to systemically crush the idea that some cultures and ways of life are to be thanked for because they brought our society's greatness. I guess the US is a large country with very diverse cultures, and it can be very hard for the federal government to make the union hold into something thriving and prosperous.
The saddest thing is when you hear people defending the founding fathers like they are the sole ideal of america: white catholic conquerors founded america and thus america should be at its image.
- areyousure 11y agoRe your last sentence: hardly any Founding father was Catholic.
- douche 11y agoCharacterizing the United States as a catholic country is a pretty big misrepresentation. Until the waves of immigration from Ireland and Italy in the mid 19th century, most Americans were protestant of one variety or the other. Part of the reason that Irish immigrants were initially considered "non-white" was because they were Catholics.
- ZeroGravitas 11y agoI think that's his point, before the founding fathers there was another version of (white-european) America, discovered by "catholic conquerors" so people choose which story to tell themselves.
- EliRivers 11y ago"Catholic" means "Christian" (well, "church universal", really), although it's often used as a shorthand for "Roman Catholic", being a subset of Catholicism. Sometimes the distinction is made by a lower case leading "c" for the church universal, and an upper case leading "C" for shorthand of "Roman Catholic". Here's a Lutheran church using the term in this way: http://web.archive.org/web/20081203192002/http://www.elca.org/Growing-In-Faith/Vocation/Rostered-Leadership/Leadership-Support/Safe-Place/Terminology.aspx http://web.archive.org/web/20081203192002/http://www.elca.or...
- kylebgorman 11y agoYes but the "universal" sense is vanishingly rare outside of religious boilerplate and doesn't make sense in the context here.