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How does Magic Leap compare with Microsoft's Hololens? It appears that both are implementing AR is slightly different ways. Was completely blown away though by

How does Magic Leap compare with Microsoft's Hololens? It appears that both are implementing AR is slightly different ways. Was completely blown away though by the demo videos of the Hololens - https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-hololens/en-us https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-hololens/en-us

wodenokoto 11y ago
Despite there been a lot of journalits who have used Hololens, it is surprisingly difficult to get an account of how it works or how well it works. I have however read that most of the augmented graphics on the hololens is semi transparent and the area of the visual field it can augment is limited. I also wonder how well it calibrates. Saw a presentation the other day about calibrating AR and the top of the line calibration in academia is not super good.
- mwilcox 11y ago
  Oliver Kreylos probably has the best description of the current demo: http://doc-ok.org/?p=1223 http://doc-ok.org/?p=1223
tmikaeld 11y ago
Those who have tested the latest version complained a lot about the FOV being very small, thus breaking immersion. Though it's the first gen version, so i guess it will become much better.
mwilcox 11y ago
Magic Leap are promising MUCH more - realistic occlusion of virtual objects by real ones, dynamic transparency (allowing both AR and fully immersive VR), natural depth of field (refocusing on virtual objects without simulated blur), a scanning fiber light-field display, fully accurate hand tracking, both very near (holding something in your hand) and far (things flying through streets) depth tracking.. you get it. Not to mention, they haven't even said anything about their cloud platform yet, which you can bet Google are heavily involved with.. combining Tango area mapping with Google Maps.. they are trying to solve every problem in AR/Computer Vision, so it's no wonder people are skeptical. But if anyone's going to succeed, they have a pretty impressive team & investor lineup. Not to mention, Magic Leap are trying to build a whole ecosystem designed for AR experiences, right down to retails stores. Whereas Microsoft simply seem to be making 'Windows-AR'.
- tmikaeld 11y ago
  The "screen based VR" companies should be right out nervous if they manage to accomplish even the basics of those lofty goals. Though, from what have been described from those who have tested the Magic Leap, it is currently a HUGE device. I'm sceptical if they can get it down to even Oculus size.
  - ElijahLynn 11y ago
    I thought they would be nervous too but there is still a market for screen based VR. Like the holodeck experience. Sometimes you just need to take people to a whole different place, one that doesn't include your current surroundings. #readyplayerone
    - tmikaeld 11y ago
      Magic Leap have realistic occlusion. That means that black can be projected on the screen - thus, VR is possible.
  - dzhiurgis 11y ago
    Working out hardware is first part. Getting enough developers working on VR is much more important. I think Google is going clever way here by building up the hype and attracting them early. Also lots of 'traditional' VR people will switch.
- noir-york 11y ago
  > realistic occlusion of virtual objects by real ones This - how is this possible? Also, in the demo I noticed that the robots that landed on the higher floor where placed at the correct height. I know its a demo and not based on a PoC; but if they deliver that it will be amazing tech.
  - ElijahLynn 11y ago
    Actually, that is their PoC. It actually works. Watch this video by Graeme Devine for more on how they do it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAAqbKSjRrk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAAqbKSjRrk

wodenokoto 11y ago

Despite there been a lot of journalits who have used Hololens, it is surprisingly difficult to get an account of how it works or how well it works. I have however read that most of the augmented graphics on the hololens is semi transparent and the area of the visual field it can augment is limited. I also wonder how well it calibrates. Saw a presentation the other day about calibrating AR and the top of the line calibration in academia is not super good.

mwilcox 11y ago
Oliver Kreylos probably has the best description of the current demo: http://doc-ok.org/?p=1223 http://doc-ok.org/?p=1223

tmikaeld 11y ago

Those who have tested the latest version complained a lot about the FOV being very small, thus breaking immersion. Though it's the first gen version, so i guess it will become much better.

mwilcox 11y ago

Magic Leap are promising MUCH more - realistic occlusion of virtual objects by real ones, dynamic transparency (allowing both AR and fully immersive VR), natural depth of field (refocusing on virtual objects without simulated blur), a scanning fiber light-field display, fully accurate hand tracking, both very near (holding something in your hand) and far (things flying through streets) depth tracking.. you get it. Not to mention, they haven't even said anything about their cloud platform yet, which you can bet Google are heavily involved with.. combining Tango area mapping with Google Maps.. they are trying to solve every problem in AR/Computer Vision, so it's no wonder people are skeptical. But if anyone's going to succeed, they have a pretty impressive team & investor lineup. Not to mention, Magic Leap are trying to build a whole ecosystem designed for AR experiences, right down to retails stores. Whereas Microsoft simply seem to be making 'Windows-AR'.

tmikaeld 11y ago
The "screen based VR" companies should be right out nervous if they manage to accomplish even the basics of those lofty goals. Though, from what have been described from those who have tested the Magic Leap, it is currently a HUGE device. I'm sceptical if they can get it down to even Oculus size.
- ElijahLynn 11y ago
  I thought they would be nervous too but there is still a market for screen based VR. Like the holodeck experience. Sometimes you just need to take people to a whole different place, one that doesn't include your current surroundings. #readyplayerone
  - tmikaeld 11y ago
    Magic Leap have realistic occlusion. That means that black can be projected on the screen - thus, VR is possible.
- dzhiurgis 11y ago
  Working out hardware is first part. Getting enough developers working on VR is much more important. I think Google is going clever way here by building up the hype and attracting them early. Also lots of 'traditional' VR people will switch.
noir-york 11y ago
> realistic occlusion of virtual objects by real ones This - how is this possible? Also, in the demo I noticed that the robots that landed on the higher floor where placed at the correct height. I know its a demo and not based on a PoC; but if they deliver that it will be amazing tech.
- ElijahLynn 11y ago
  Actually, that is their PoC. It actually works. Watch this video by Graeme Devine for more on how they do it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAAqbKSjRrk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAAqbKSjRrk