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I'm not sure if it is a good idea to use this device with your rechargeable batteries...

by kabouseng 11y ago

nodata 11y ago
Everywhere in the article it refers to disposable batteries.
- amelius 11y ago
  > “15 billion batteries go into landfill every year,” he says, “so we can help avoid that.” So actually, it would be better if everybody switched to rechargable batteries?
  - nodata 11y ago
    It would be better, yes.
  - pmontra 11y ago
    Definitely yes, but (example) the rear light of my bicycle insists to be powered by two AA 1.5 V batteries. Two rechargeable ones don't have enough voltage to light it so I need disposable batteries. The front light works with 3 rechargeable ones. We should stop building stuff that needs throw away batteries.
    - jrockway 11y ago
      I use this taillight which lasts forever with NiMH batteries: http://www.cateye.com/en/products/detail/TL-LD570-R/moreinfo/ http://www.cateye.com/en/products/detail/TL-LD570-R/moreinfo... I probably change the batteries every month or so, which is usually about 40 hours of riding. Probably too often, but whatever. The light cost $15, I think. (Actually I'm retiring this light today and switching to a dynamo-based lighting system. No more recharging ever. Looking forward to that.)
m_eiman 11y ago
According to the article Roohparvar says the sleeve will also work with 1.2 volt rechargeable batteries, boosting them up to 1.5 volts., but they don't say anything about how well the rechargables would handle this usage.
- Filligree 11y ago
  The usual way for rechargables, I imagine. They'll handle it just fine until they die from an overly deep discharge. If the chip is very clever, then it'll detect that it's working on a rechargable (from voltage curves?), and stop discharging after a certain point. But the specifics there depend on the exact chemistry used, so it'd be difficult to get it right.
usrusr 11y ago
No problem at all, the built-in compatibility mode will conveniently turn your rechargeables into disposables. Jokes aside, while the technology and the "why did nobody think of this before" is certainly impressive, if this gets any market traction it will cause more landfill by hurting rechargeable adoption than it will prevent by slowing the disposable battery replacement cycle.

I'm not sure if it is a good idea to use this device with your rechargeable batteries...

nodata 11y ago

Everywhere in the article it refers to disposable batteries.

amelius 11y ago
> “15 billion batteries go into landfill every year,” he says, “so we can help avoid that.” So actually, it would be better if everybody switched to rechargable batteries?
- nodata 11y ago
  It would be better, yes.
- pmontra 11y ago
  Definitely yes, but (example) the rear light of my bicycle insists to be powered by two AA 1.5 V batteries. Two rechargeable ones don't have enough voltage to light it so I need disposable batteries. The front light works with 3 rechargeable ones. We should stop building stuff that needs throw away batteries.
  - jrockway 11y ago
    I use this taillight which lasts forever with NiMH batteries: http://www.cateye.com/en/products/detail/TL-LD570-R/moreinfo/ http://www.cateye.com/en/products/detail/TL-LD570-R/moreinfo... I probably change the batteries every month or so, which is usually about 40 hours of riding. Probably too often, but whatever. The light cost $15, I think. (Actually I'm retiring this light today and switching to a dynamo-based lighting system. No more recharging ever. Looking forward to that.)

m_eiman 11y ago

According to the article Roohparvar says the sleeve will also work with 1.2 volt rechargeable batteries, boosting them up to 1.5 volts., but they don't say anything about how well the rechargables would handle this usage.

Filligree 11y ago
The usual way for rechargables, I imagine. They'll handle it just fine until they die from an overly deep discharge. If the chip is very clever, then it'll detect that it's working on a rechargable (from voltage curves?), and stop discharging after a certain point. But the specifics there depend on the exact chemistry used, so it'd be difficult to get it right.

usrusr 11y ago

No problem at all, the built-in compatibility mode will conveniently turn your rechargeables into disposables. Jokes aside, while the technology and the "why did nobody think of this before" is certainly impressive, if this gets any market traction it will cause more landfill by hurting rechargeable adoption than it will prevent by slowing the disposable battery replacement cycle.