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That would be of Yore as in "long past" although in the grand scheme of "humans making things that float" its hard to consider this as ancient.

by VLM 11y ago

pbhjpbhj 11y ago
I'm pretty sure they mean "lore" as in "tradition" and "wisdom developed over time". http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lore http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lore
- dalke 11y ago
  I don't think so. Then it would be "Naval Architect Lore May Have ...". The phrase "naval architects of lore" would mean the old naval architects themselves, not the knowledge they had. While that definition works, it's unusual. "X of yore" is much more common for this situation. As a rough approximation, compare the n-gram population of "of yore vs "of lore", from https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=of+lore%2Cof+yore&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cof%20lore%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Cof%20yore%3B%2Cc0 https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=of+lore%2Cof+y... . "Of yore" occurs several times more often. For another approximation, Google finds only 4 matches for "engineers of lore" and 84 for "engineers of yore". (I couldn't search for "architects of yore" since all of the matches were either to this article, or to the "Architects of Lore" series by Kayara Ingham.)
  - mordechai9000 11y ago
    An architect of lore would be one who architects (designs) lore, while an architect of yore would be an architect from days gone by. The former makes no sense in this context, IMO.
    - hyperpallium 11y ago
      Could also be the naval architects who feature in lore; though naval architects are generally not prominent in myths, it's mostly warriors, kings, wizards, princesses etc. Closest I can think of is Daedalus the inventor.
      - dalke 11y ago
        Indeed. My example of "engineers of lore" (which now finds my earlier comment) finds a page with "Doyle plays the whistle like engineers of lore". Other variants are "The macho, look-at-me, gun-slinging Dallas Cowboys of lore and legend", "Also, Wendell had suggested that if they were going to die in a bunker, they better be ready and depart the earth like the cowboys of lore with their boots on.", "The pirates of lore have been romanticized as dashing and daring adventurers.", "Worries of cheap labour from Eastern Europe, the Polish plumbers of lore, burgeoned with the possibility of Bulgarians and Romanians joining the ranks of those willing to work for lower wages and longer hours than the local labour force.", "Ghat (pronounced "rat" by Bastien) was a trading center for the great camel caravans of lore, bringing ivory, gold, salt, and slaves from the sub-Sahara..", and "These were the Clippers [aircraft] of lore that captured the imagination through radio shows and even movies of that era." These are examples of "X mentioned in lore" not "X who create lore", and where "lore" isn't synonymous with myths. I also found "A historic landmark and famed work of San Francisco architect of lore Willis Polk" at http://sf.curbed.com/tags/willis-polk http://sf.curbed.com/tags/willis-polk , which is an example of a building architect who features in lore.
        hyperpallium 11y ago
        Yes, though myth is also related to romanticising, through exaggeration and emphasising universal elements. e.g. cowboys, pirates, war, police have been mythologised. Really, almost any story that stirs does so by evoking these universals. I suppose naval architecture has its own traditions, a lore of heroes, conflict, inventive solution and disaster. hmmm the tale of the Titanic is one of the most mythic events of modern times - and naval architecture is right at the center. Does programming have lore? i.e. mythic stories? Figures like Turing and Babbage certainly have mythic stature, but don't seem quite right. Maybe something descended from the telegraph operators of Edison's era. Or perhaps some science fiction characters (like DNA on asking the right question), or Murphy's Law? Perhaps we move so fast (though often reinventing unnecessarily) that lore becomes dated too quickly?
        dalke 11y ago

That would be of Yore as in "long past" although in the grand scheme of "humans making things that float" its hard to consider this as ancient.

by VLM 11y ago

That would be of Yore as in "long past" although in the grand scheme of "humans making things that float" its hard to consider this as ancient.

pbhjpbhj 11y ago

I'm pretty sure they mean "lore" as in "tradition" and "wisdom developed over time". http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lore http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lore

dalke 11y ago
I don't think so. Then it would be "Naval Architect Lore May Have ...". The phrase "naval architects of lore" would mean the old naval architects themselves, not the knowledge they had. While that definition works, it's unusual. "X of yore" is much more common for this situation. As a rough approximation, compare the n-gram population of "of yore vs "of lore", from https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=of+lore%2Cof+yore&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cof%20lore%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Cof%20yore%3B%2Cc0 https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=of+lore%2Cof+y... . "Of yore" occurs several times more often. For another approximation, Google finds only 4 matches for "engineers of lore" and 84 for "engineers of yore". (I couldn't search for "architects of yore" since all of the matches were either to this article, or to the "Architects of Lore" series by Kayara Ingham.)
- mordechai9000 11y ago
  An architect of lore would be one who architects (designs) lore, while an architect of yore would be an architect from days gone by. The former makes no sense in this context, IMO.
  - hyperpallium 11y ago
    Could also be the naval architects who feature in lore; though naval architects are generally not prominent in myths, it's mostly warriors, kings, wizards, princesses etc. Closest I can think of is Daedalus the inventor.
    - dalke 11y ago
      Indeed. My example of "engineers of lore" (which now finds my earlier comment) finds a page with "Doyle plays the whistle like engineers of lore". Other variants are "The macho, look-at-me, gun-slinging Dallas Cowboys of lore and legend", "Also, Wendell had suggested that if they were going to die in a bunker, they better be ready and depart the earth like the cowboys of lore with their boots on.", "The pirates of lore have been romanticized as dashing and daring adventurers.", "Worries of cheap labour from Eastern Europe, the Polish plumbers of lore, burgeoned with the possibility of Bulgarians and Romanians joining the ranks of those willing to work for lower wages and longer hours than the local labour force.", "Ghat (pronounced "rat" by Bastien) was a trading center for the great camel caravans of lore, bringing ivory, gold, salt, and slaves from the sub-Sahara..", and "These were the Clippers [aircraft] of lore that captured the imagination through radio shows and even movies of that era." These are examples of "X mentioned in lore" not "X who create lore", and where "lore" isn't synonymous with myths. I also found "A historic landmark and famed work of San Francisco architect of lore Willis Polk" at http://sf.curbed.com/tags/willis-polk http://sf.curbed.com/tags/willis-polk , which is an example of a building architect who features in lore.
      - hyperpallium 11y ago
        Yes, though myth is also related to romanticising, through exaggeration and emphasising universal elements. e.g. cowboys, pirates, war, police have been mythologised. Really, almost any story that stirs does so by evoking these universals. I suppose naval architecture has its own traditions, a lore of heroes, conflict, inventive solution and disaster. hmmm the tale of the Titanic is one of the most mythic events of modern times - and naval architecture is right at the center. Does programming have lore? i.e. mythic stories? Figures like Turing and Babbage certainly have mythic stature, but don't seem quite right. Maybe something descended from the telegraph operators of Edison's era. Or perhaps some science fiction characters (like DNA on asking the right question), or Murphy's Law? Perhaps we move so fast (though often reinventing unnecessarily) that lore becomes dated too quickly?
        dalke 11y ago