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If they really can't find her, they should peruse the obits for her husband. Edit: 3 downvotes and a bizarre reply to my comment about sexism. From the article

by logn 11y ago

If they really can't find her, they should peruse the obits for her husband. Edit: 3 downvotes and a bizarre reply to my comment about sexism. From the article, "He feels badly because the woman said her husband had died a couple of months earlier". How is my comment sexist? And how would you find the woman?

spcoll 11y ago
HN's sexism at work as usual... The title of this submission is already pretty sexist. Had it been a man, his gender would not have been mentioned.
- haberman 11y ago
  What? How on earth is this sexist? EDIT: Ok, looking through your comment history I am less surprised. You do a disservice to the very real and prevalent instances of sexism when you play the card in situations where it clearly does not apply, like this.
  - adventured 11y ago
    It's not, the person was "triggered" by an artificially manufactured offense. Some people refer to it as outrage porn; the desire to seek even the smallest of possible things to generate anger, outrage, etc. which eventually becomes like an emotional addiction.
    - TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
      Please do not equivocate PTSD with offence. That is not what "triggered" means.
      - CardenB 11y ago
        "Triggered" has become something of an Internet meme these days (via tumblr). That's what he is referring to. He was using quotes to highlight the irony.
        TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
        > "Triggered" has become something of an Internet meme these days (via tumblr). Yes, mocking trauma and abuse suffers has become an Internet meme. That doesn't make it considerate behaviour. > That's what he is referring to. I know.
        vezzy-fnord 11y ago
        You have the causal chain incorrect. It isn't mocking trauma and abuse sufferers, it's mocking people who equate minor inconveniences with trauma and abuse.
        TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
        Who are they to assume some particular thing does not cause trauma or flashbacks to it? And how can you tell if these supposed people trivialising it are sincere? Mocking a concept genuinely helpful for sufferers of trauma simply because of its perceived misuse hurts trauma sufferers and helps nobody.
        alextgordon 11y ago
        Most people can tell a crackpot when they see one. Symptoms include incoherent rambling, wild exaggerations and a lust for attention.
      - girvo 11y ago
        You are correct, however it has taken on another definition on the Internet, Tumblr and Twitter being hotspots for its usage. It makes a mockery of those who suffer from PTSD; being "triggered" is not the same as being upset at something, it's far more horrifying and I've got nothing but sympathy for those who have suffered. Also, typically a trigger isn't something specific like a description of something bad that happened, but something more ethereal, like a noise or a smell or a particular memory that only comes up while dreaming. Horrifying condition :(
        TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
        Another definition? In the spaces where it is used it refers exclusively to PTSD triggers and such. Trigger warnings mostly originated on the Internet - claiming the Internet perverted them is nonsensical. It's not the same as someone disagreeing, but nobody has said that it is. Why would you think that this is what people mean? Do people seem to be triggered by trivial things? Well, that's how trauma can work. It's not people misconceiving the concept. A description of something that happened can cause people to relive trauma. Yes, it doesn't work like that for all survivors, but that doesn't invalidate the reality of everyone else. Triggers are specific to individuals and personal. It is a completely reasonable and utterly inoffensive thing to suggest that people warn about things that might cause certain people to relive trauma.
        jblow 11y ago
        This is not at all true. For example, in new age communities, "triggered" is used very frequently to mean that someone's personal ego wires have been tripped -- and in fact the reason the word is used is because it's understood that "being triggered" is not that big a deal, it's part of being human, and one may get very upset in the moment but with perspective one sees it's fine. This is obviously very different from the PTSD-only meaning you are talking about, but I would bet that the new age version of the word has been in use for much longer and by many more people. So ... I sense some presumption and lack of exposure here, is all I am saying.
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      - x0 11y ago
        I agree with you, and it looks like I'm one of the only ones. deletes account
  - yashap 11y ago
    Agreed, attacking people as sexist for totally benign comments just HURTS women's rights. It's a "boy who cried wolf" scenario, filtering out the B.S. just makes people insensitive to the real issues later.
- wfunction 11y ago
  Is it that hard to imagine a title like "Apple I discarded as junk sells for $200k; mystery man stands to get half"...?
  - Frozenlock 11y ago
    No, but this is HN, with all its silly white knights... Would have been safer to say "Apply 1 discarded as junk sells for $200k; mystery human stands to get half"
    - trhway 11y ago
      >mystery human stands to get half definitely, as opposed to for example aliens from Omicron 8. Anyway they definitely would have a "specie-ism" claim here.
- VLM 11y ago
  Read the article, the "plot" of the story is the clerk and the donor commiserated for some time on their shared experiences of the loss of a spouse, which the clerk found rather memorable. In contrast, when I visit the recycling center, I dump my stuff and GTFO so they likely have no memory of my visit.
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- adventured 11y ago
  Fortunately you're incorrect, there's no sexism in the title nor the parent's comment. The use of "mystery man" is common. http://www.mercurynews.com/scott-herhold/ci_27894894/who-was-mystery-man-lbj-and-don-edwards http://www.mercurynews.com/scott-herhold/ci_27894894/who-was... http://www.mercurynews.com/scott-herhold/ci_27941900/catching-up-mystery-man-and-utility-art-boxes http://www.mercurynews.com/scott-herhold/ci_27941900/catchin... http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_25915857/has-mystery-man-behind-hiddencash-been-revealed http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_25915857/has-mystery-... http://www.mercurynews.com/extra/ci_27904858/mystery-man-columnist-seeks-help-identifying-unknown-man http://www.mercurynews.com/extra/ci_27904858/mystery-man-col... http://www.mercurynews.com/my-town/ci_26196119/concord-mystery-man-gave-away-groceries-shake-blues http://www.mercurynews.com/my-town/ci_26196119/concord-myste... http://www.mercurynews.com/weird-news/ci_27146487/mystery-man-hands-out-100-bills-massachusetts http://www.mercurynews.com/weird-news/ci_27146487/mystery-ma... and on it goes
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marincounty 11y ago
I curious about the 50/50 split? It looks like a relatively new company.(couldn't find a review on Yelp, and 50 plus like on Facebook). I went to Clean Bay Area, under 'How much money can I make?'; The answer was scarce, and I would need to email them for details. Call me cynical, but while I feel this is a true story, I wonder if this is the first time they actually ponied up any money on donated equipment? That is without a firm agreement to buy before the drop-off, or pick-up? This one Apple computer and their earnest attempt to find the woman and give her $100,000 sounds fishy? It sounds like it could be a PR move? I could be wrong, and they always make good on their promise to split proceedes with customers 50/50? I will probally never know--unless the company comes on here(HN), and describes the details, and discusses the 50/50 split? It would all be good marketing for an honest recycling company? Especially, a new one? My main point, is I have dealt with antiques, collectables, etc.--for 20 years. I have never found a completely honest wholesale/picker/auction house/reseller/buyer? You have to keep a keen eye on All of them. If you want to donate to a supposedly good cause--just drop off the stuff. Just keep in mind even companies like Goodwill are loaded with huge internal theft problems. My local San Rafael Goodwill has fired at least three managers, that I know for internal theft. None of the managers were charged? Why? Maybe, because the nonprofit didn't want the bad publicity? They sure go after, customers caught stealing--with a vengeance? By the way--I see people buying too many products from Goodwill close to, or exceeding retail prices? One manager was literally cherry picking the valuable donations and selling them out the back door. He was quite the happy entrepreneur--for awhile? Another was caught taking expensive jewelry out of the company safe, and yes Goodwill rehired her for some reason! I am not picking on Goodwill. I am actually hesitant to say anything because they have a lot of lawyers. Someone wrote a book on Goodwill, and no one bother to read it. Just expect to get ripped off if you are not selling your stuff yourself. Hell, even the wealthy need to beware--I believe Christie's was found guilty of price fixing a few years ago? Oh yea, go through your stuff before tossing? I've seen a lot of people throwing away 1st edition books. I can go into most people homes and find something of value--they thought was junk.
- bitJericho 11y ago
  Some people have empathy and integrity.

by logn 11y ago

spcoll 11y ago

HN's sexism at work as usual... The title of this submission is already pretty sexist. Had it been a man, his gender would not have been mentioned.

haberman 11y ago
What? How on earth is this sexist? EDIT: Ok, looking through your comment history I am less surprised. You do a disservice to the very real and prevalent instances of sexism when you play the card in situations where it clearly does not apply, like this.
- adventured 11y ago
  It's not, the person was "triggered" by an artificially manufactured offense. Some people refer to it as outrage porn; the desire to seek even the smallest of possible things to generate anger, outrage, etc. which eventually becomes like an emotional addiction.
  - TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
    Please do not equivocate PTSD with offence. That is not what "triggered" means.
    - CardenB 11y ago
      "Triggered" has become something of an Internet meme these days (via tumblr). That's what he is referring to. He was using quotes to highlight the irony.
      - TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
        > "Triggered" has become something of an Internet meme these days (via tumblr). Yes, mocking trauma and abuse suffers has become an Internet meme. That doesn't make it considerate behaviour. > That's what he is referring to. I know.
        vezzy-fnord 11y ago
        You have the causal chain incorrect. It isn't mocking trauma and abuse sufferers, it's mocking people who equate minor inconveniences with trauma and abuse.
        TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
        Who are they to assume some particular thing does not cause trauma or flashbacks to it? And how can you tell if these supposed people trivialising it are sincere? Mocking a concept genuinely helpful for sufferers of trauma simply because of its perceived misuse hurts trauma sufferers and helps nobody.
        alextgordon 11y ago
        Most people can tell a crackpot when they see one. Symptoms include incoherent rambling, wild exaggerations and a lust for attention.
    - girvo 11y ago
      You are correct, however it has taken on another definition on the Internet, Tumblr and Twitter being hotspots for its usage. It makes a mockery of those who suffer from PTSD; being "triggered" is not the same as being upset at something, it's far more horrifying and I've got nothing but sympathy for those who have suffered. Also, typically a trigger isn't something specific like a description of something bad that happened, but something more ethereal, like a noise or a smell or a particular memory that only comes up while dreaming. Horrifying condition :(
      - TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
        Another definition? In the spaces where it is used it refers exclusively to PTSD triggers and such. Trigger warnings mostly originated on the Internet - claiming the Internet perverted them is nonsensical. It's not the same as someone disagreeing, but nobody has said that it is. Why would you think that this is what people mean? Do people seem to be triggered by trivial things? Well, that's how trauma can work. It's not people misconceiving the concept. A description of something that happened can cause people to relive trauma. Yes, it doesn't work like that for all survivors, but that doesn't invalidate the reality of everyone else. Triggers are specific to individuals and personal. It is a completely reasonable and utterly inoffensive thing to suggest that people warn about things that might cause certain people to relive trauma.
        jblow 11y ago
        This is not at all true. For example, in new age communities, "triggered" is used very frequently to mean that someone's personal ego wires have been tripped -- and in fact the reason the word is used is because it's understood that "being triggered" is not that big a deal, it's part of being human, and one may get very upset in the moment but with perspective one sees it's fine. This is obviously very different from the PTSD-only meaning you are talking about, but I would bet that the new age version of the word has been in use for much longer and by many more people. So ... I sense some presumption and lack of exposure here, is all I am saying.
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    - x0 11y ago
      I agree with you, and it looks like I'm one of the only ones. deletes account
- yashap 11y ago
  Agreed, attacking people as sexist for totally benign comments just HURTS women's rights. It's a "boy who cried wolf" scenario, filtering out the B.S. just makes people insensitive to the real issues later.
wfunction 11y ago
Is it that hard to imagine a title like "Apple I discarded as junk sells for $200k; mystery man stands to get half"...?
- Frozenlock 11y ago
  No, but this is HN, with all its silly white knights... Would have been safer to say "Apply 1 discarded as junk sells for $200k; mystery human stands to get half"
  - trhway 11y ago
    >mystery human stands to get half definitely, as opposed to for example aliens from Omicron 8. Anyway they definitely would have a "specie-ism" claim here.
VLM 11y ago
Read the article, the "plot" of the story is the clerk and the donor commiserated for some time on their shared experiences of the loss of a spouse, which the clerk found rather memorable. In contrast, when I visit the recycling center, I dump my stuff and GTFO so they likely have no memory of my visit.
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adventured 11y ago
Fortunately you're incorrect, there's no sexism in the title nor the parent's comment. The use of "mystery man" is common. http://www.mercurynews.com/scott-herhold/ci_27894894/who-was-mystery-man-lbj-and-don-edwards http://www.mercurynews.com/scott-herhold/ci_27894894/who-was... http://www.mercurynews.com/scott-herhold/ci_27941900/catching-up-mystery-man-and-utility-art-boxes http://www.mercurynews.com/scott-herhold/ci_27941900/catchin... http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_25915857/has-mystery-man-behind-hiddencash-been-revealed http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_25915857/has-mystery-... http://www.mercurynews.com/extra/ci_27904858/mystery-man-columnist-seeks-help-identifying-unknown-man http://www.mercurynews.com/extra/ci_27904858/mystery-man-col... http://www.mercurynews.com/my-town/ci_26196119/concord-mystery-man-gave-away-groceries-shake-blues http://www.mercurynews.com/my-town/ci_26196119/concord-myste... http://www.mercurynews.com/weird-news/ci_27146487/mystery-man-hands-out-100-bills-massachusetts http://www.mercurynews.com/weird-news/ci_27146487/mystery-ma... and on it goes
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marincounty 11y ago

I curious about the 50/50 split? It looks like a relatively new company.(couldn't find a review on Yelp, and 50 plus like on Facebook). I went to Clean Bay Area, under 'How much money can I make?'; The answer was scarce, and I would need to email them for details. Call me cynical, but while I feel this is a true story, I wonder if this is the first time they actually ponied up any money on donated equipment? That is without a firm agreement to buy before the drop-off, or pick-up? This one Apple computer and their earnest attempt to find the woman and give her $100,000 sounds fishy? It sounds like it could be a PR move? I could be wrong, and they always make good on their promise to split proceedes with customers 50/50? I will probally never know--unless the company comes on here(HN), and describes the details, and discusses the 50/50 split? It would all be good marketing for an honest recycling company? Especially, a new one? My main point, is I have dealt with antiques, collectables, etc.--for 20 years. I have never found a completely honest wholesale/picker/auction house/reseller/buyer? You have to keep a keen eye on All of them. If you want to donate to a supposedly good cause--just drop off the stuff. Just keep in mind even companies like Goodwill are loaded with huge internal theft problems. My local San Rafael Goodwill has fired at least three managers, that I know for internal theft. None of the managers were charged? Why? Maybe, because the nonprofit didn't want the bad publicity? They sure go after, customers caught stealing--with a vengeance? By the way--I see people buying too many products from Goodwill close to, or exceeding retail prices? One manager was literally cherry picking the valuable donations and selling them out the back door. He was quite the happy entrepreneur--for awhile? Another was caught taking expensive jewelry out of the company safe, and yes Goodwill rehired her for some reason! I am not picking on Goodwill. I am actually hesitant to say anything because they have a lot of lawyers. Someone wrote a book on Goodwill, and no one bother to read it. Just expect to get ripped off if you are not selling your stuff yourself. Hell, even the wealthy need to beware--I believe Christie's was found guilty of price fixing a few years ago? Oh yea, go through your stuff before tossing? I've seen a lot of people throwing away 1st edition books. I can go into most people homes and find something of value--they thought was junk.

bitJericho 11y ago
Some people have empathy and integrity.