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He wants AirBnB to fix the blacklist issue because he can no longer rent an apartment after an eviction caused by his AirBnB guests. I'm not sure why you find

He wants AirBnB to fix the blacklist issue because he can no longer rent an apartment after an eviction caused by his AirBnB guests. I'm not sure why you find that hard to understand. It was obvious from the post. Not that I would ever let strangers stay in my place, but I would expect the same thing.

notdanariely 11y ago
Hmm, an interesting and different perspective! Thank you for sharing. If I were to consider renting my place on AirBnB, I would consider the people staying here to be my guests, not ABnB's. While I believe there is some concern with how the company represents themselves, the fact remains that it's his apartment he chose to rent out. Illegally, I might add. If you rented a room to someone referred by a friend, and that guest trashed your place... would you expect your friend to make restitution? (Personally, I would downgrade my trust in that friend's opinion, but I don't think I would hold them liable...)
- gyardley 11y ago
  A friend? No, I wouldn't expect a friend to make restitution at all - unless, of course, my friend had done this sort of thing millions of times, knew I was likely subjecting myself to the risk of eviction (probably completely inadvertently), and didn't bother to say a damn thing to me. If, instead of warning me about the stupid risk I was taking, my friend highlighted things designed to make my behavior seem risk-free (like, say, a million-dollar property damage guarantee), well, then I might feel a little differently. If my friend had built a multi-billion-dollar business off of the risky behavior of me and others like me, then I know I would feel differently. But this is a moot point, because friends don't let their friends engage in risky behavior without at least making them aware of those risks. Someone that does that isn't your friend at all.
viraptor 11y ago
Because AirBnB has no control over the blacklist. He doesn't really mention whether the original contract allowed him to sublet though. If it did, then his issue should be with: the owner suing him and the companies linking his case to the blacklist. AirBnB could help him out with place to stay, court costs, etc. - but you can't expect them to "just fix" it. They've got the guarantee and as far as I know, he got the money to compensate for the incident itself. If it didn't, then... the blacklist works. I don't approve of how it works, but these are the current rules. Effectively the party is irrelevant - he's on the blacklist for breaking the subletting rules.
SilasX 11y ago
FWIW, I couldn't quite piece together what happened from that post, since he never actually gives a chronology, just a list of how Airbnb responded at some stage of the controversy. Before your post, my best guest was that they damaged his apartment, costing him money that he couldn't recover, and when he tried to get Airbnb's help, they sent out word that he was uncooperative and got him blacklisted.
Dylan16807 11y ago
The guests may have triggered the eviction, but their bad actions were not the cause, it was the fact that the room was rented at all. The XXX Freak Fest is not the problem, and AirBnB already compensated for that, which is why the post is not entirely obvious. That and the... interesting writing style.

notdanariely 11y ago

Hmm, an interesting and different perspective! Thank you for sharing. If I were to consider renting my place on AirBnB, I would consider the people staying here to be my guests, not ABnB's. While I believe there is some concern with how the company represents themselves, the fact remains that it's his apartment he chose to rent out. Illegally, I might add. If you rented a room to someone referred by a friend, and that guest trashed your place... would you expect your friend to make restitution? (Personally, I would downgrade my trust in that friend's opinion, but I don't think I would hold them liable...)

gyardley 11y ago
A friend? No, I wouldn't expect a friend to make restitution at all - unless, of course, my friend had done this sort of thing millions of times, knew I was likely subjecting myself to the risk of eviction (probably completely inadvertently), and didn't bother to say a damn thing to me. If, instead of warning me about the stupid risk I was taking, my friend highlighted things designed to make my behavior seem risk-free (like, say, a million-dollar property damage guarantee), well, then I might feel a little differently. If my friend had built a multi-billion-dollar business off of the risky behavior of me and others like me, then I know I would feel differently. But this is a moot point, because friends don't let their friends engage in risky behavior without at least making them aware of those risks. Someone that does that isn't your friend at all.

viraptor 11y ago

Because AirBnB has no control over the blacklist. He doesn't really mention whether the original contract allowed him to sublet though. If it did, then his issue should be with: the owner suing him and the companies linking his case to the blacklist. AirBnB could help him out with place to stay, court costs, etc. - but you can't expect them to "just fix" it. They've got the guarantee and as far as I know, he got the money to compensate for the incident itself. If it didn't, then... the blacklist works. I don't approve of how it works, but these are the current rules. Effectively the party is irrelevant - he's on the blacklist for breaking the subletting rules.

SilasX 11y ago

FWIW, I couldn't quite piece together what happened from that post, since he never actually gives a chronology, just a list of how Airbnb responded at some stage of the controversy. Before your post, my best guest was that they damaged his apartment, costing him money that he couldn't recover, and when he tried to get Airbnb's help, they sent out word that he was uncooperative and got him blacklisted.

Dylan16807 11y ago

The guests may have triggered the eviction, but their bad actions were not the cause, it was the fact that the room was rented at all. The XXX Freak Fest is not the problem, and AirBnB already compensated for that, which is why the post is not entirely obvious. That and the... interesting writing style.