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Google I/O 2015 – Keynote
- icpmacdo 11y agoI hope there is going to be a new chromecast today
- dm2 11y agoWith what kind of new features?
- untog 11y agoI'd just take a general speed up - casting something is painfully slow for me (or was the last time I tried - much happier with my Roku)
- dyladan 11y agoI've had no such issues with speed. My chromecast is generally on by the time I've figured out what I want to watch and buffering is less than 15 seconds to start the video. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
- mscrivo 11y ago5GHz WiFi support
- jyrkesh 11y agoThis seems like such a minor thing to people who live in houses/rural areas, but I took home a Chromecast that is completely unusable for video because I live in a densely packed apartment building. My TV is RIGHT next to my router, but there's so many 2.4GHz networks and so much interference that Netflix buffers like crazy.
- dudus 11y ago4k playback is the only thing I can think of
- dyladan 11y agoPower over HDMI edit: - HDMI passthrough so I can use multiple devices without switching TV inputs. - Bluetooth for things like music streaming - Camera? (not sure how psyched I'd be about this but it could be cool) - Microphone (for voice commands without phone) - Native apps (Android apps?)
- PascLeRasc 11y agoHDMI 1.4 supports 50 mA @ 5V, I'm not sure if that's enough to power a Chromecast.
- dyladan 11y agoIt is sadly not (my current draw is closer to 300-400 mA at 4.8v). Even if it was though, the current chromecast doesn't have the hardware to support it.
- ankurpatel 11y agoHDMI CEC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#CEC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#CEC
- dyladan 11y agoChromecast currently supports HDMI-CEC
- _lce0 11y agowork offline?
- ohitsdom 11y agoThis. The current "phone home" setup makes it tough to deploy in many environments.
- jsingleton 11y agoNew app permissions in Android. Nice. Edit: Asks when needed, not at install time. Focus on the web with Chrome custom tabs looks good too. I only got 5.1.1 today but 6? (M...) looks great from the small amount seen so far.
- biot 11y agoThis could finally be the year I start using Android. The horrible all-or-nothing permission system has made me stay clear of it so far.
- sushirain 11y agoCyanogenMod is an Android mod that has customizable Android permissions (Privacy Guard).
- Someone1234 11y agoVery nice. I hope "phone" includes phone number, as Android has a bad track record of leaking your cellphone number to every single app (and ad network) that you install. I doubt it does, as Google had made it quite clear they don't consider your cell phone number personal information (but DO consider your email address). I am just waiting until it blows up in their faces, when spammers and scammers start utilising the hole.
- izacus 11y agoHuh? Retrieving a phone number always required android.permission.READ_PHONE_STATE permission. Same as retrieving your email requires android.permission.GET_ACCOUNTS .
- Someone1234 11y agoREAD_PHONE_STATE is given to every app for "free" now. It is no longer listed on the play store and hasn't been for almost a year.
- deepnet 11y ago
- jfuhrman 11y ago> 1.5B casts from Chromecast Interesting, I didn't know that every cast was reported back to the mothership.
- untog 11y agoNot to say that it does. Users who have opted into provide data to Google might have a once-a-month ping containing the number of times it's been used.
- dyladan 11y agoThere are plenty of other ways to get that information. Statistics (x number sold * y average casts per user), asking streaming companies (i'm sure netflix and hulu know when you're on a chromecast and could report rough numbers to google), and i'm pretty sure there are other ways that I'm not thinking of.
- lepht 11y ago... and how would they know "average casts per user"?
- magicalist 11y agoYou don't, but that's what the entire field of statistics was invented for to estimate :) From the above, though, it sounds like that's not necessary since it's fundamental to the cast protocol.
- ohitsdom 11y agoNope. As others have pointed out, every cast has to begin with a call to google.com (which is why chromecast must be connected to the internet). The call basically sends an id number to google, and then google returns a URL of where to get the code for that cast.
- izacus 11y agoActually it does - the casting isn't triggered locally directly, but the castee sends a chromecast ID + app ID to Google servers which then sends appropriate payload to the CC.
- jsingleton 11y agoDoze looks cool. Using the accelerometer to work out how often to sync. Saving power when not being moved.
- icpmacdo 11y agoAlso the bi directional charging with type C is super cool.
- Someone1234 11y agoI wonder how much power running the accelerometer uses? It isn't free to keep track of that. Back on my Note (1) Samsung had a bunch of gestures related to the accelerometer, and leaving them enabled drained a significant amount of battery.
- tdkl 11y agoProbably will be the same thing as pedometers in newer mobile SOCs, that don't use significant power. Snapdragon S800 (Nexus 5) and up.
- quotedmycode 11y agoIt depends on how many updates a second. One update a second is about 10µA, with a higher frequency costing more.
- jsingleton 11y agoIoT stuff looks promising. Brillo and Weave. http://gizmodo.com/get-ready-for-google-brillo-the-new-operating-system-f-1706783821 http://gizmodo.com/get-ready-for-google-brillo-the-new-opera... Edit: Not sure the cross branding will work as well as with KitKat! Ball of metal wires? :)
- bravo22 11y agoExcited about Weave. Not sure about Brillo. It is unnecessary. Most IoT things are low power Cortex-M devices that need to do very little and are very low power consumption. You don't have SDRAM, or a fancy OS and don't need it. There are plenty free and non-free RTOS available for those chips for whoever needs them.
- zimbatm 11y agoAndroid M will be available in preview for Nexus 5, 6, 9 and "player". I hope it doesn't mean that Nexus 4 is already end of life ?
- tdkl 11y agoIt does, it'll receive security updates only as part of the new devices policy - 2 years for major updates, 3 years for security updates.[1] It is a bit sour though to deprecate a device with a quad-core CPU and 2GB of RAM, while low range devices launched last year will get M. [1]http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/05/23/rumor-android-m-will-come-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/ http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/05/23/rumor-android-m-will...
- 0xFFC 11y agoYou should stop spreading rumor , this is rumor right now and no one give shit about what some crazy site says.Please be accurate as possible when answering someone.
- tdkl 11y agoWell this is the site which showed the new app permissions yesterday[1], so they're pretty sharp about what they "rumors" they spread. [1]http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/05/27/android-m-to-introduce-granular-permission-control/ http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/05/27/android-m-to-introdu...
- 0xFFC 11y agolack of logical thinking. not related , saying one truth does not imply you are saying truth all the time.
- Synaesthesia 11y agoIt is a shame because Android has actually become far better optimized for low spec phones anyway!
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- georgebonnr 11y agoSurprised nobody's commented yet about the jarring juxtaposition of the running chat that reflects the sentiment of average Youtube viewers alongside content that's meant for a fairly specific audience (developers). Or rather... how discouraging it is that it IS such a juxtaposition. It's well-known by now that Youtube is not the place to go to find quality discussion. It still stings a little bit to see it applied in realtime to people you care about, even if it is just because you loosely share a profession and professional culture.
- minthd 11y ago>> It's well-known by now that Youtube is not the place to go to find quality discussion. To solve this problem, i use the AlienTube firefox extension, which brings reddit discussions over to youtube.
- niuzeta 11y agoI've heard of that extension. Does that make it better? What happens if there are multiple discussion threads in reddit of the same video? I assume the extension does a pseudo-submit/match-check to the reddit first to fetch the thread.
- minthd 11y agoIt shows a tabbed interface of the few most popular discussion threads over reddit.
- PascLeRasc 11y agoYeah, I hope Youtube doesn't try to become Twitch. It might be more appropriate to have a live twitter feed of some related hashtags.
- jsingleton 11y agoThere is a button to hide the chat box. I couldn't click it too soon.
- fixermark 11y ago
- zimbatm 11y agoNew protocol for "Internet of Things" called Weave. Looks like it's going to use JSON or type-compatible. They didn't address why existing solutions aren't good.
- tbatchelli 11y agoHmm... networking + Weave, where have I seen that before? Ah, http://weave.works http://weave.works . Google did the same with Go as a language, didn't they?
- dragonwriter 11y agoWeave apparently has been the name of the Nest protocol for quite some time (before the Google acquisition, I think); there have been articles about it for quite a while. The new thing with Weave isn't something with that name being created by Google, its it becoming available to third parties, as well as the Android-derived Brillo IoT stack.
- drcode 11y agosigh and another system where all kinds of data is managed/owned centrally by Google.
- digi_owl 11y agoThere was also a API for checking via Android (aka Google) if a URI passed via intents was "kosher".
- jsingleton 11y agoLet's hope it's an open protocol. I'm guessing this came out of Nest so they may want to make it interoperable. I'm a big fan of https://www.particle.io https://www.particle.io (previously Spark). http://nodered.org http://nodered.org and https://resin.io https://resin.io are also good but not used them seriously.
- Someone1234 11y agoWhen watching that this XKCD immediately came to mind: https://xkcd.com/927/ https://xkcd.com/927/ If they had announced how open and free their new standard was to use, I might have taken notice, but as it stands it is a Google-owned "standard" which likely only Google would use.
- tdkl 11y agoThe lack of G+ and Hangouts is quite obvious. I don't remember the last time they've tweeted or used Whatsapp or Viber for product showcase.
- 0xFFC 11y agoActually I think this is completely ridiculous point , because G+ and hangout as far as I can remember installed on nexus [you aware enough to know that they use nexus device for demonstration ] by default , so they cannot show the app permission dialog because all default app granted all permission by default .
- dmix 11y agoThey also wouldn't want to show users declining permissions to a Google app.
- tdicola 11y agoAudience shot shows just one person with Google Glass--ouch.
- niuzeta 11y agoThe Google Photo recognition and auto-management looks pretty cool; except that: 1. Why would I hand over my photos to a third party, that, quite ostensibly, is capable of indexing and tagging it by face- and location-recognition and store on their storage. I used to trust Google with most of my information, but I've been slowly transitioning them away to either local, or a home-brew solution. 2. What I noticed for the first time is not the cool new shiny things, but the absence of Hangouts and Google+ features. Did they get completely abandoned, or are they to be covered later? It seems like a Google style to make some AI-enhanced or Google-flavored version of pre-existing service(be it RSS, social media, you name it), let it get hyped because "Google", then abandon it when it doesn't reach some internal target. Honestly, while I definitely agree that they're all cool stuff, but I do not see myself using those features; it's more of a trust issues over convenience. Just my two cents.
- joezydeco 11y agoWhat I noticed for the first time is not the cool new shiny things, but the absence of Hangouts and Google+ features I'm curious about Google Photos but if Google had proclaimed "you must be a Google+ user to get this" then I wouldn't even give it a try. I could see it being a hook into Google+ at some later point in time if/when there's momentum.
- rhodysurf 11y agoIts moving in the opposite direction though so that doesn't make sense. It already was a Google+ integrated app and now its standalone.
- bluedino 11y agoBillions of photos are on Facebook. Maybe trillions.
- _lce0 11y ago"what if we could use google's unique capabilities take back control of helpless people's digital lives?"
- cwyers 11y agoYour periodic reminder that there are more people on Ice Cream Sandwich and earlier than are on Lollipop: http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html Heck, Gingerbread is at 6% versus 10% for Lollipop cumulative. And 5.0 has 9 times the adoption of 5.1. Instead of announcing a new Android version, why not announce how you're going to get new versions of Android onto devices already in wild? And if Google wants to blame the OEMs for this, the OEM you owned when I got my Motorola X (and still owned when you shipped 5.0!) still hasn't been updated. It's absurd.
- neumino 11y agoYou could have bought a nexus.
- cwyers 11y agoYeah, I owned a Galaxy Nexus, the idea that the Nexus line is some blanket guarantee of updates to new OS versions is mistaken.
- TillE 11y agoWell, it's an 18 month guarantee. After that, Google is happy to abandon you. I like many many things about Android. But they really need to sort this out, at least for their flagship phones.
- sergiosgc 11y agoWhat would be the acceptable time frame for supporting existing devices? I agree that 18 months is a bit on the short side, but the Galaxy Nexus is way beyond that. By the time M hits the street, the Galaxy Nexus will be a four year old model.
- cwyers 11y agoI am not complaining about the Galaxy Nexus not being supported NOW, although frankly I don't see why it shouldn't be -- the hardware is plenty capable of running new Android versions. It was terrible about getting updates back when it was still available for sale. EDIT: I have three and four year old computers that are running Windows 10 Technical Preview just fine. And it's not like new low-end Android phones are more powerful than four-year-old mid- and high-end phones. I think that it's silly that we have reset our expectations so low that it's beyond the pale that companies should support OS updates on four-year-old phones.
- vidoc 11y agoInteresting talks, even though the style of every single presenter so far indicates they must have watched a lot of TED talks and subscribed for at least a year to a toaster club in the south bay. Once again, embarrassingly, every single reference to the 'developing world' is stereotypical.
- _lce0 11y agoisn't the photos message somehow misleading? "what if we could use google's unique capabilities to help people take back control of their digital lives? and then the 3 central ideas: 1. a home for all your photos, and videos. A private, and safe place place to keep a life-time of memories, available from any device. 2. help you organize and bring your moments to life. an app that takes the work out of photos and lets you focus on making memories, not managing them. 3. make it easy to share and save what matters. Sharing should be simple and reliable, and when you're on the receiving end, it should be easy to hold on to the photos and videos you care about. .. then he moves the presentation to show all the data mining that they do on the photos, how they extract information about who is on the photos, which places where those taken, which tags the google's machinery could found from them .. and for the big final, they announce unlimited free storage! --- so how exactly will google help users take back control of their digital life? call me suspicious? I'm staying out.
- sidcool 11y agoThis was the best I/O in over 3 years. Very impressed...
- iyn 11y agoI'm extremely excited about Expeditions - VR for schools (and other people/institutions at some point, I guess) can have great impact on how we learn. This is a long term investment, with better educational system we'll get more innovators and, I hope, better world. JUMP (camera rig & assembly) is cool too and I hope it won't share the same fate as Glass. In general, seeing all the progress in the VR world makes me feel that we're at the edge of another technological revolution (and it's great that Google wants to bring this experience to everyone, or at least the viewers as the camera ring won't be cheap). I have a great dose of skepticism, of course, but I plan to learn as much as possible about developing for VR platforms in the coming months - can you suggest good resources for this? What languages are the best bet? What concepts are the most important ones? I'd appreciate all suggestions.
- chinhodado 11y ago"Unlimited free storage" for photos is not exactly a new thing. It was already unlimited before with Google+ Photos, the catch was that it will automatically resize your photos to be smaller than 2048x2048 (about 4MP). Now they're just bumping the limit to 16MP.