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Being a Better Online Reader

62 points by bootload 11y ago

kanche 11y ago
Now a days I read mostly in kindle as it is convenient. I really miss flipping pages to scan and go to a part in an earlier chapter for quick reference - navigation is so inefficient in e-readers.
barbs 11y ago
I find it difficult to read longer articles on a computer, mostly because it's so easy to get distracted by so many things - other links in the page, other tabs in the browser and other apps open on the desktop. I tend to get easily distracted reading printed books, however. Mostly my thoughts will wander, or if I'm outside somewhere I'll get distracted by some sort of external stimuli. I was actually thinking this morning, it'd be great if I could have some sort of mode in Chrome that shows only the article I wanted to read, in full-screen, with nothing else visible. And to encourage me to read the article to the end before changing task, I wouldn't be able to change the tab (via CTRL-tab or CTRL-pageUp/down), I would only be able to close the tab. I'm actually not 100% sure this would help, but it would be an interesting experiment.
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- song 11y ago
  My solution for that is to read on my Kobo... Whenever an article seems like interesting enough to warrant reading, I add it to pocket and then read it on my ereader... It's more comfortable and less distracting
- whoisthemachine 11y ago
  FYI, recent versions of Firefox include a reader view.
- Dewie3 11y ago
  > I find it difficult to read longer articles on a computer, mostly because it's so easy to get distracted by so many things - other links in the page, other tabs in the browser and other apps open on the desktop. In this case Richard Stallman-style "web browsing" might be better. :-)
amelius 11y ago
Here's an idea. Every paragraph should include a button saying "I'm lost". When pressing the button, the user should be automatically taken back to the most appropriate place in the document to continue reading.
mafribe 11y ago
In my opinion all that hand-wringing about people no longer reading long text misses a crucial point: long writing was necessary only where quick contextualisation was impossible, i.e. before the invention of the web, search engines etc. Books had to be long to give the reader the context so the key idea of the text can easily be communicated. Hence long text is a consequence of technological flaws of the previously dominant platform for text distribution, printing. The availability of the net, linking, search technology from google to grep has changed all that. Not surprisingly, digital natives move away from long text. We should be happy that information transmission has become a tiny bit less painful. That's not to say that there isn't a place for long, continuous text, but it should be more an exception than the norm.
- samuell 11y ago
  That's a very good point. Thanks.
- joncameron 11y ago
  "...long writing was necessary only where quick contextualisation was impossible" Adler and Doren's "How to Read a Book" covers quick contextualization; there were techniques and ideas about this starting in the early 70s, most of which is still very relevant and I've found very useful in my own reading life.
  - kranner 11y ago
    That book is anything but quick. Here's a summary of the book I found more useful than the book itself: http://www.oxfordtutorials.com/How%20to%20Read%20a%20Book%20Outline.htm http://www.oxfordtutorials.com/How%20to%20Read%20a%20Book%20...
- erikb 11y ago
  I agree with your point but I also understand why people who spent their whole life crafting long texts are confused by the new situation. If I would have spent 30 years in the newspaper industry I wouldn't want to switch to confer information with slides/html5/photoshop/programs/videos. It's just so far off from what makes a good writer.
vanderZwan 11y ago
> "We read more quickly when lines are longer, but only to a point. When lines are too long, it becomes taxing to move your eyes from the end of one to the start of the next. We read more efficiently when text is arranged in a single column rather than multiple columns or sections. The font, color, and size of text can all act in tandem to make our reading experience easier or more difficult. And while these variables surely exist on paper just as they do on-screen, the range of formats and layouts online is far greater than it is in print. Online, you can find yourself transitioning to entirely new layouts from moment to moment, and, each time you do so, your eyes and your reading approach need to adjust. Each adjustment, in turn, takes mental and physical energy." Huh, I never thought of considering changing typography a context switch[0], but it makes perfect sense. I guess that's why I like using the Readable bookmarklet to standardise the typography of any article I read. http://readable.tastefulwords.com/ http://readable.tastefulwords.com/ It's pretty easy to tweak too: I keep changing fonts every now and then, whenever I find one that is more easy on the eyes. By now I have six different versions bookmarked: - two for print (Serif, small & large print) - two for reading during the day (Sans, black text on white background, different font sizes) - two for reading in the evening/at night (Sans, light grey text on dark grey background, different font sizes) [0]: Outside of computer science, "context switch" has been adopted in the Interaction Design community (at least the one I'm in) to apply to humans too - a well-structured UI requires less context switches of its user. It's a pretty spot-on analogy in many situations.
easyfrag 11y ago
Anyone aware of evidence on comprehension & retention of audiobooks? Obviously that medium is not ideal for all subject matter but I've been recently listening to a mix of fiction & non-fiction and found I'm immersing myself much more than on paper or screen.

62 points by bootload 11y ago

Now a days I read mostly in kindle as it is convenient. I really miss flipping pages to scan and go to a part in an earlier chapter for quick reference - navigation is so inefficient in e-readers.

barbs 11y ago

I find it difficult to read longer articles on a computer, mostly because it's so easy to get distracted by so many things - other links in the page, other tabs in the browser and other apps open on the desktop. I tend to get easily distracted reading printed books, however. Mostly my thoughts will wander, or if I'm outside somewhere I'll get distracted by some sort of external stimuli. I was actually thinking this morning, it'd be great if I could have some sort of mode in Chrome that shows only the article I wanted to read, in full-screen, with nothing else visible. And to encourage me to read the article to the end before changing task, I wouldn't be able to change the tab (via CTRL-tab or CTRL-pageUp/down), I would only be able to close the tab. I'm actually not 100% sure this would help, but it would be an interesting experiment.

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song 11y ago
My solution for that is to read on my Kobo... Whenever an article seems like interesting enough to warrant reading, I add it to pocket and then read it on my ereader... It's more comfortable and less distracting
whoisthemachine 11y ago
FYI, recent versions of Firefox include a reader view.
Dewie3 11y ago
> I find it difficult to read longer articles on a computer, mostly because it's so easy to get distracted by so many things - other links in the page, other tabs in the browser and other apps open on the desktop. In this case Richard Stallman-style "web browsing" might be better. :-)

amelius 11y ago

Here's an idea. Every paragraph should include a button saying "I'm lost". When pressing the button, the user should be automatically taken back to the most appropriate place in the document to continue reading.

mafribe 11y ago

In my opinion all that hand-wringing about people no longer reading long text misses a crucial point: long writing was necessary only where quick contextualisation was impossible, i.e. before the invention of the web, search engines etc. Books had to be long to give the reader the context so the key idea of the text can easily be communicated. Hence long text is a consequence of technological flaws of the previously dominant platform for text distribution, printing. The availability of the net, linking, search technology from google to grep has changed all that. Not surprisingly, digital natives move away from long text. We should be happy that information transmission has become a tiny bit less painful. That's not to say that there isn't a place for long, continuous text, but it should be more an exception than the norm.

samuell 11y ago
That's a very good point. Thanks.
joncameron 11y ago
"...long writing was necessary only where quick contextualisation was impossible" Adler and Doren's "How to Read a Book" covers quick contextualization; there were techniques and ideas about this starting in the early 70s, most of which is still very relevant and I've found very useful in my own reading life.
- kranner 11y ago
  That book is anything but quick. Here's a summary of the book I found more useful than the book itself: http://www.oxfordtutorials.com/How%20to%20Read%20a%20Book%20Outline.htm http://www.oxfordtutorials.com/How%20to%20Read%20a%20Book%20...
erikb 11y ago
I agree with your point but I also understand why people who spent their whole life crafting long texts are confused by the new situation. If I would have spent 30 years in the newspaper industry I wouldn't want to switch to confer information with slides/html5/photoshop/programs/videos. It's just so far off from what makes a good writer.

vanderZwan 11y ago

> "We read more quickly when lines are longer, but only to a point. When lines are too long, it becomes taxing to move your eyes from the end of one to the start of the next. We read more efficiently when text is arranged in a single column rather than multiple columns or sections. The font, color, and size of text can all act in tandem to make our reading experience easier or more difficult. And while these variables surely exist on paper just as they do on-screen, the range of formats and layouts online is far greater than it is in print. Online, you can find yourself transitioning to entirely new layouts from moment to moment, and, each time you do so, your eyes and your reading approach need to adjust. Each adjustment, in turn, takes mental and physical energy." Huh, I never thought of considering changing typography a context switch[0], but it makes perfect sense. I guess that's why I like using the Readable bookmarklet to standardise the typography of any article I read. http://readable.tastefulwords.com/ http://readable.tastefulwords.com/ It's pretty easy to tweak too: I keep changing fonts every now and then, whenever I find one that is more easy on the eyes. By now I have six different versions bookmarked: - two for print (Serif, small & large print) - two for reading during the day (Sans, black text on white background, different font sizes) - two for reading in the evening/at night (Sans, light grey text on dark grey background, different font sizes) [0]: Outside of computer science, "context switch" has been adopted in the Interaction Design community (at least the one I'm in) to apply to humans too - a well-structured UI requires less context switches of its user. It's a pretty spot-on analogy in many situations.

easyfrag 11y ago

Anyone aware of evidence on comprehension & retention of audiobooks? Obviously that medium is not ideal for all subject matter but I've been recently listening to a mix of fiction & non-fiction and found I'm immersing myself much more than on paper or screen.