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Nice work. Question for anyone using light table or similar environments on a day-to-day basis: does this statement-by-statement eval and output scale to larger

Nice work. Question for anyone using light table or similar environments on a day-to-day basis: does this statement-by-statement eval and output scale to larger projects? It makes a nice demo for contained scripts, in particular those working with a concrete dataset (image, samples). I have trouble imagining what it is like for larger, more abstract stretches of code.

willwhitney 11y ago
I like to break my code up into little functions that are easy to test, so that flow works well for me. Even more powerful, though, is autocomplete from the running environment. It means that (just like in the Chrome Dev Tools) when you start typing something, the autocomplete suggestions include all of the valid names that are defined. It really helps in navigating complex APIs like Torch: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e6hriw5quwct65a/Screenshot%202015-05-20%2016.37.51.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/e6hriw5quwct65a/Screenshot%202015-...
- nawitus 11y ago
  How powerful is autocomplete, when statically typed languages also provide it?
  - willwhitney 11y ago
    The development experience for statically typed languages is often _amazing_ compared to that of dynamically typed ones; we sometimes choose dynamically typed ones anyway because of the flexibility and speed of development they give. I'd be very happy with an environment that provided dynamically typed languages the same analysis, checking, completion, etc that statically typed languages take for granted.
    - seanmcdirmid 11y ago
      I'm working a type system called type-less that is oriented in this direction; check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II1PgYTPW_U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II1PgYTPW_U I need to do another video soon, the work has progressed a bit further since then.
    - espadrine 11y ago
      > I'd be very happy with an environment that provided dynamically typed languages the same analysis, checking, completion Thinks like tern.js[0] or my own Aulx[1] provide that with varying success. Visual Studio's JS autocompletion is also stellar. The techniques used could be applied (with tweaks) to most dynamic languages. [0]: http://ternjs.net/doc/demo.html http://ternjs.net/doc/demo.html [1]: http://espadrine.github.io/aulx/ http://espadrine.github.io/aulx/
- CyberDildonics 11y ago
  Pretty awesome, this is something I had been thinking about since using light table and julia - live programming, visualization and bringing auto complete and live syntax checking to julia. Very cool! I think these methods if they work on a larger scale will ultimately be a better way to program.
rattray 11y ago
Relatedly, I would love to see - what is this like with Django?

willwhitney 11y ago

I like to break my code up into little functions that are easy to test, so that flow works well for me. Even more powerful, though, is autocomplete from the running environment. It means that (just like in the Chrome Dev Tools) when you start typing something, the autocomplete suggestions include all of the valid names that are defined. It really helps in navigating complex APIs like Torch: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e6hriw5quwct65a/Screenshot%202015-05-20%2016.37.51.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/e6hriw5quwct65a/Screenshot%202015-...

nawitus 11y ago
How powerful is autocomplete, when statically typed languages also provide it?
- willwhitney 11y ago
  The development experience for statically typed languages is often _amazing_ compared to that of dynamically typed ones; we sometimes choose dynamically typed ones anyway because of the flexibility and speed of development they give. I'd be very happy with an environment that provided dynamically typed languages the same analysis, checking, completion, etc that statically typed languages take for granted.
  - seanmcdirmid 11y ago
    I'm working a type system called type-less that is oriented in this direction; check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II1PgYTPW_U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II1PgYTPW_U I need to do another video soon, the work has progressed a bit further since then.
  - espadrine 11y ago
    > I'd be very happy with an environment that provided dynamically typed languages the same analysis, checking, completion Thinks like tern.js[0] or my own Aulx[1] provide that with varying success. Visual Studio's JS autocompletion is also stellar. The techniques used could be applied (with tweaks) to most dynamic languages. [0]: http://ternjs.net/doc/demo.html http://ternjs.net/doc/demo.html [1]: http://espadrine.github.io/aulx/ http://espadrine.github.io/aulx/
CyberDildonics 11y ago
Pretty awesome, this is something I had been thinking about since using light table and julia - live programming, visualization and bringing auto complete and live syntax checking to julia. Very cool! I think these methods if they work on a larger scale will ultimately be a better way to program.

rattray 11y ago

Relatedly, I would love to see - what is this like with Django?