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Maybe, one day, we'll find a PGP signed "I am Satoshi Nakamoto" in someone's last will. If he/she/they won't do this or if PGP is broken by then we will never

Maybe, one day, we'll find a PGP signed "I am Satoshi Nakamoto" in someone's last will. If he/she/they won't do this or if PGP is broken by then we will never know for sure.

drcode 11y ago
> or if PGP is broken by then we will never know for sure. Unless they have already put encrypted messages into the existing blockchain using different algos with such a signed message- Then they could use another signature to prove they signed the message with PGP before PGP was broken.
- lordnacho 11y ago
  How about just using www.proofofexistence.com? Of course you might have expected the real Satoshi to have done this before the site came up.
- nly 11y ago
  No need to do that. Satoshi has bitcoin in the blockchain already that he or she may have secp256k1 keypairs for. Being able to spend these coins would be proof enough.
waterlesscloud 11y ago
They probably just have something on file with gwern.
- icpmacdo 11y ago
  Could you expand on what you mean?
  - mmarx 11y ago
    It's probably referencing http://gwern.net http://gwern.net, a site featuring essays on various topics.
    - arfliw 11y ago
      It's referencing a person that goes by gwern. Who that is, I haven't fully gathered. He is talked about a lot (and active) on /r/bitcoin and has had some popular Satoshi related answers on Quora. Seems to get a lot of respect (that is likely his website).
      - feraloink 11y ago
        Gwern is Gwern Branwen. He likes Haskell. He has a website, which was mentioned earlier. He uses Google+ with his name here https://plus.google.com/103530621949492999968/posts/A3u1goGcjTU https://plus.google.com/103530621949492999968/posts/A3u1goGc... He is on Twitter. He answers questions on Quora. Some LessWrong folks are kind of obsessed with Gwern. Gwern is here too https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=gwern https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=gwern He seems very open about everything.
  - feraloink 11y ago
    Here's more about the URL detective work and gwern: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/361niw/decoding_the_enigma_of_satoshi_nakamoto_and_the/cra2cok http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/361niw/decoding_the... Szabo wrote a little about gwern here: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2011/05/bitcoin-what-took-ye-so-long.html http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2011/05/bitcoin-what-took-y...
    - arfliw 11y ago
      That second link is basically an admission that he is Satoshi -- or that he and Hal Finney together were Satoshi. If you read between the lines. I annotated with explanations of what I mean: http://genius.it/unenumerated.blogspot.com/2011/05/bitcoin-what-took-ye-so-long.html http://genius.it/unenumerated.blogspot.com/2011/05/bitcoin-w...

Maybe, one day, we'll find a PGP signed "I am Satoshi Nakamoto" in someone's last will. If he/she/they won't do this or if PGP is broken by then we will never know for sure.

drcode 11y ago

> or if PGP is broken by then we will never know for sure. Unless they have already put encrypted messages into the existing blockchain using different algos with such a signed message- Then they could use another signature to prove they signed the message with PGP before PGP was broken.

lordnacho 11y ago
How about just using www.proofofexistence.com? Of course you might have expected the real Satoshi to have done this before the site came up.
nly 11y ago
No need to do that. Satoshi has bitcoin in the blockchain already that he or she may have secp256k1 keypairs for. Being able to spend these coins would be proof enough.

waterlesscloud 11y ago

They probably just have something on file with gwern.

icpmacdo 11y ago
Could you expand on what you mean?
- mmarx 11y ago
  It's probably referencing http://gwern.net http://gwern.net, a site featuring essays on various topics.
  - arfliw 11y ago
    It's referencing a person that goes by gwern. Who that is, I haven't fully gathered. He is talked about a lot (and active) on /r/bitcoin and has had some popular Satoshi related answers on Quora. Seems to get a lot of respect (that is likely his website).
    - feraloink 11y ago
      Gwern is Gwern Branwen. He likes Haskell. He has a website, which was mentioned earlier. He uses Google+ with his name here https://plus.google.com/103530621949492999968/posts/A3u1goGcjTU https://plus.google.com/103530621949492999968/posts/A3u1goGc... He is on Twitter. He answers questions on Quora. Some LessWrong folks are kind of obsessed with Gwern. Gwern is here too https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=gwern https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=gwern He seems very open about everything.
- feraloink 11y ago
  Here's more about the URL detective work and gwern: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/361niw/decoding_the_enigma_of_satoshi_nakamoto_and_the/cra2cok http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/361niw/decoding_the... Szabo wrote a little about gwern here: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2011/05/bitcoin-what-took-ye-so-long.html http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2011/05/bitcoin-what-took-y...
  - arfliw 11y ago
    That second link is basically an admission that he is Satoshi -- or that he and Hal Finney together were Satoshi. If you read between the lines. I annotated with explanations of what I mean: http://genius.it/unenumerated.blogspot.com/2011/05/bitcoin-what-took-ye-so-long.html http://genius.it/unenumerated.blogspot.com/2011/05/bitcoin-w...