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I think the biggest problem with their new sign-in which most people are having is that it is more time consuming, i.e. two steps means clicking the sign-in but

I think the biggest problem with their new sign-in which most people are having is that it is more time consuming, i.e. two steps means clicking the sign-in button twice, waiting for transition between pages. Secondly, it breaks almost all password managers including Lastpass, and it breaks a lot of extensions like these[1] [1] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/quick-login-for-google-ac/cbgngpehipfmfmpjmhonhacgbkjpdidp?utm_source=chrome-app-launcher-info-dialog https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/quick-login-for-go...

nav1 11y ago
That's not true, though. You would still have to either press tab (now enter), or click the second field to enter the password.
- Veratyr 11y ago
  It's very true. The click isn't the problem, the "waiting for transition between pages" is the problem. Type username/password = ~1s each Single keypress = ~0.1s each Page load = ~2s Before: username + tab + password + enter = 1 + 0.1 + 1 + 0.1 + 2 = ~2.2s After: username + enter + page load + password + enter = 1 + 0.1 + 2 + 1 + 0.1 + 2 = ~4.2s Roughly doubling the amount of time it takes to enter your information is significant and annoying.
  - nav1 11y ago
    Except it doesn't even take a second for the password input to appear. Where are you getting those numbers from anyway? When I tried it, it only took about 152 ms for all the data to load after submitting the e-mail address.
    - Veratyr 11y ago
      It depends greatly on your location, connection and browser. Many users are stuck on low quality internet connections or mobile devices where things can easily take a full second or more.
hullo 11y ago
Would Google consider breaking Lastpass a bug or a feature?
- infogulch 11y ago
  I don't know how they could consider it a feature. If someone is using lastpass, that person is probably many times more security-conscious than their average user.
  - nosideeffects 11y ago
    Couldn't you also, just as fairly, interpret the use of any "single password to lock up all my other passwords" somehow less security-conscious?
    - gohrt 11y ago
      No, because without Lastpass, users use the same password everywhere, or use trivially crackable passwords.
      - nosideeffects 11y ago
        That is a sweeping generalization about security habits of non-users of Lastpass. My point is that the security-consciousness does not necessarily go hand in hand with using a password management system. If someone gets into your single point of truth, they not only have all your passwords, they know about all your other accounts after - needing only to break into just one of them.
        EugeneOZ 11y ago
        It's not a generalization but absolutely truth about all people who don't use password managers. They use same password for multiple accounts or invent some "complex" rule to create passwords by url or title or something else. And second option is in light years away from secure way of storing passwords :)
Akteivias 11y ago
I have no problems with Dashlane

nav1 11y ago

That's not true, though. You would still have to either press tab (now enter), or click the second field to enter the password.

Veratyr 11y ago
It's very true. The click isn't the problem, the "waiting for transition between pages" is the problem. Type username/password = ~1s each Single keypress = ~0.1s each Page load = ~2s Before: username + tab + password + enter = 1 + 0.1 + 1 + 0.1 + 2 = ~2.2s After: username + enter + page load + password + enter = 1 + 0.1 + 2 + 1 + 0.1 + 2 = ~4.2s Roughly doubling the amount of time it takes to enter your information is significant and annoying.
- nav1 11y ago
  Except it doesn't even take a second for the password input to appear. Where are you getting those numbers from anyway? When I tried it, it only took about 152 ms for all the data to load after submitting the e-mail address.
  - Veratyr 11y ago
    It depends greatly on your location, connection and browser. Many users are stuck on low quality internet connections or mobile devices where things can easily take a full second or more.

hullo 11y ago

Would Google consider breaking Lastpass a bug or a feature?

infogulch 11y ago
I don't know how they could consider it a feature. If someone is using lastpass, that person is probably many times more security-conscious than their average user.
- nosideeffects 11y ago
  Couldn't you also, just as fairly, interpret the use of any "single password to lock up all my other passwords" somehow less security-conscious?
  - gohrt 11y ago
    No, because without Lastpass, users use the same password everywhere, or use trivially crackable passwords.
    - nosideeffects 11y ago
      That is a sweeping generalization about security habits of non-users of Lastpass. My point is that the security-consciousness does not necessarily go hand in hand with using a password management system. If someone gets into your single point of truth, they not only have all your passwords, they know about all your other accounts after - needing only to break into just one of them.
      - EugeneOZ 11y ago
        It's not a generalization but absolutely truth about all people who don't use password managers. They use same password for multiple accounts or invent some "complex" rule to create passwords by url or title or something else. And second option is in light years away from secure way of storing passwords :)

Akteivias 11y ago

I have no problems with Dashlane