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While that is relevant for you and me, I'm guessing for the vast majority of phone users, this is meaningless. The average phone user does not download apps ou

by rogupta 17y ago

While that is relevant for you and me, I'm guessing for the vast majority of phone users, this is meaningless. The average phone user does not download apps outside the app store. I would argue the same folks who do download outside the app store would just jailbreak their iPhone. Either way, I'm all for a more open approval process.

mcav 17y ago
Users cannot download apps outside of the app store without jailbreaking. It's an awfully far-fetched assumption to think that users wouldn't download apps outside of the app store if that were an option. People download windows/mac apps all the time.
- brisance 17y ago
  Except that users CAN. It's called ad hoc distribution. Do some research please. http://developer.apple.com/iPhone/program/distribute.html http://developer.apple.com/iPhone/program/distribute.html
  - kscaldef 17y ago
    "The Standard and Enterprise Programs allow you to share your application with _up to 100_ other iPhone or iPod touch users with Ad Hoc distribution. Share your application through email or by posting it to a web site or server." (emphasis added) I'm sure you can work around this somehow, but this isn't really the same as allowing unlimited and free distribution.
  - antonovka 17y ago
    Ad-hoc distribution requires that you: 1) Share your unique device identifier with the developer. 2) The developer registers that device ID with Apple. Only 100 devices per developer may be registered in one year. 3) Apple signs a signing certificate which includes that device ID. 4) The developer signs the application binary with their private key and includes the Apple-signed certificate with the binary. This is absolutely not useful for anything other than beta testing.
    - brisance 17y ago
      Read the parent comment. I was replying to the specific statement that one cannot download apps onto the device other than through the App Store, not addressing whether it is useful or not as a channel to distribute apps. As to your other points, sign up for the Enterprise program. http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Gu...
      - antonovka 17y ago
        Read the parent comment. I was replying to the specific statement that one cannot download apps onto the device other than through the App Store, not addressing whether it is useful or not as a channel to distribute apps. I can get out and push my car, but that doesn't make it a hybrid. As to your other points, sign up for the Enterprise program. The enterprise program does not allow for external distribution and is not useful (or even permitted) outside of large enterprise organizations.

by rogupta 17y ago

mcav 17y ago

Users cannot download apps outside of the app store without jailbreaking. It's an awfully far-fetched assumption to think that users wouldn't download apps outside of the app store if that were an option. People download windows/mac apps all the time.

brisance 17y ago
Except that users CAN. It's called ad hoc distribution. Do some research please. http://developer.apple.com/iPhone/program/distribute.html http://developer.apple.com/iPhone/program/distribute.html
- kscaldef 17y ago
  "The Standard and Enterprise Programs allow you to share your application with _up to 100_ other iPhone or iPod touch users with Ad Hoc distribution. Share your application through email or by posting it to a web site or server." (emphasis added) I'm sure you can work around this somehow, but this isn't really the same as allowing unlimited and free distribution.
- antonovka 17y ago
  Ad-hoc distribution requires that you: 1) Share your unique device identifier with the developer. 2) The developer registers that device ID with Apple. Only 100 devices per developer may be registered in one year. 3) Apple signs a signing certificate which includes that device ID. 4) The developer signs the application binary with their private key and includes the Apple-signed certificate with the binary. This is absolutely not useful for anything other than beta testing.
  - brisance 17y ago
    Read the parent comment. I was replying to the specific statement that one cannot download apps onto the device other than through the App Store, not addressing whether it is useful or not as a channel to distribute apps. As to your other points, sign up for the Enterprise program. http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Gu...
    - antonovka 17y ago
      Read the parent comment. I was replying to the specific statement that one cannot download apps onto the device other than through the App Store, not addressing whether it is useful or not as a channel to distribute apps. I can get out and push my car, but that doesn't make it a hybrid. As to your other points, sign up for the Enterprise program. The enterprise program does not allow for external distribution and is not useful (or even permitted) outside of large enterprise organizations.