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Chrome OS source code

72 points by ypavan 17y ago

ryandvm 17y ago
How many times is this going to get posted? That's not Chrome OS, it's the source code for the Chrome OS port of Chromium.
- cx01 17y ago
  Take a closer look at the projects listed on the right-hand side. There's much more than Chrome.
  - deleted 17y ago
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  - ypavan 17y ago
    True. Have a look at chromiumos.git, ibus, login_manager.git , pam_google.git, syslinux.git and kernel.git
- teilo 17y ago
  I assumed what you did, but looking closer, this is definitely the real deal, complete with the Google-patched 2.6.30 kernel. What I find interesting here is that ChromeOS has its own window manager for X. I was under the impression that the video system was something new. Does this mean that they still support X running on their own video subsystem? I predict that someone will start releasing self-compiled ChromiumOS builds running very soon.
  - ErrantX 17y ago
    http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/software-architecture http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/s... According to that it looks like they are definitely using X. They seem to have made a lot of tweaks to low level firmware too.
  - wmf 17y ago
    I was under the impression... You got suckered by completely unfounded rumors. (Don't feel bad, so did almost everyone else.)
- ryandvm 17y ago
  Eep - I apologize for making the assumption that this was another "Chromium for Chrome" post.
kilowatt 17y ago
Cool! The window manager is super tiny. And uses Clutter apparently: http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=chromiumos.git;a=blob;f=src/platform/window_manager/window_manager.cc;h=7b9f3f485f84a0c32bb29e65c2eb278b63617b96;hb=HEAD http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=chromiumos.git;... But just naively judging by the amount of code here this doesn't feel like the bombshell the tech press is expecting.
- jshen 17y ago
  judging by the amount of code? What kind of metric is that? The vision of the browser as the OS is huge.
  - swannodette 17y ago
    It might be huge but it's all more than a bit scary coming from Google. Also I question the adoption rate of something like this. All my stuff in the cloud == EVIL as far I'm concerned.
    - chris100 17y ago
      The only things I still keep local on my drive: music my family pictures my email, contacts and calendar work files If you imagine a tablet/netbook with GoogleOS, I'm still scared to death of losing the network. There is some talk of offline storage, but the details are super-fuzzy. On a plane: where is my music or my videos? At my grandparents' place, where Interent is still not quite reliable In the middle of visiting Death Valley
      - xal 17y ago
        have a look at dropbox. It's not an either/or decision. You can have both.
    - jshen 17y ago
      "All my stuff in the cloud == EVIL as far I'm concerned." How is storing data in a certain place EVIL?
jacknero 17y ago
http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=chromiumos.git;a=blob;f=src/scripts/chromeos_version.sh;h=b571b5db1fa960f5a4b676ba0899b009ea30211c;hb=HEAD http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=chromiumos.git;... Maybe Official builds is Chrome OS Continuous builds and developer hand-builds is chronium OS
boundlessdreamz 17y ago
What is clone URL of the git repos? Not familiar with gitweb and not able to guess the repo URL
- mbrubeck 17y ago
  This is a cloneable URI: http://src.chromium.org/git/chromiumos.git http://src.chromium.org/git/chromiumos.git Here are complete instructions to download and build the source: http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/building-chromium-os http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/building-chromium-os And Google's Matt Cutts is liveblogging the annoucement webcast (includes links to other blog coverage): http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-os/ http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-os/
teilo 17y ago
Looks like they are inviting submissions now also: http://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/building-chromium-os/making-changes http://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/build...
ypavan 17y ago
Also at the same time, there seems to be live blogging sessions happening on the "Google Chrome OS" Event: * Live Webcast: http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/annc/20091119_chrome_os_webcast.html http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/annc/20091119_chrome_os_... * Looks like TechCrunch is covering the event, best: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/19/chrome-os-event/ http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/19/chrome-os-event/ * Matt Cutts: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-os/ http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-os/ * Danny Sullivan: http://searchengineland.com/liveblogging-the-google-chrome-os-press-conference-30156 http://searchengineland.com/liveblogging-the-google-chrome-o...
- ypavan 17y ago
  Youtube's GoogleChrome Channel has 5 new videos on the Chrome OS. http://www.youtube.com/user/googlechrome http://www.youtube.com/user/googlechrome
ypavan 17y ago
IMO, one interesting thing is about the native support for SSDs and elimination of long known & trustworthy HDDs. Clearly the sign of things happening!!
- csbrooks 17y ago
  SSDs, HHDs: Could I get some clarification on those TLAs? :)
  - scott_s 17y ago
    Solid-state drives and hard-disk drives. HDDs are mechanical devices with spinning platters. SSDs have no moving parts; it's all silicon. (HHD is not what he mentioned, but it's a hybrid hard drive; solid state cache with normal disk drives.)
  - ypavan 17y ago
    SSD = Solid State Device (Drive) HDD = Hard Disk Drive
csbrooks 17y ago
So, silly question here (and feel free to point me to a URL where I can learn the answer): at one time there was some buzz about being able to install Chrome OS on an old-ish laptop, and use it for web browsing. The implication was that it would perform better than, say, Windows XP with Firefox. Is this still a goal, anyone know? (I have a few old laptops laying around, and that sounds pretty neat to me...)
- steveklabnik 17y ago
  They've said they're only targetting netbooks for now, specifically ones with SSDs.
  - csbrooks 17y ago
    Huh. That's understandable, but unfortunate for me. I wonder how hard it would be for someone to make this work on other machines. Would that mean strapping on some drivers, maybe grafted on from linux or something?
    - steveklabnik 17y ago
      You'd probably just have to reconfigure the kernel to load the drivers you'd require. I haven't looked through the code yet myself, but it shouldn't be too difficult.
- GeneralMaximus 17y ago
  It's just a Linux distro that launches Google Chrome on startup. You can run this on any standard x86 machine.
owlboy 17y ago
Any builds out there yet for me to throw into Virtual Box?
- steveklabnik 17y ago
  They said it works under virtualization already, so you could just go to chromium.org and download it yourself. The build process isn't too bad. http://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/building-chromium-os/build-instructions http://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/build...
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- kennardsmith 17y ago
  found a couple posted here: http://www.technixupdate.com/direct-download-links-for-unofficial-google-chrome-os/ http://www.technixupdate.com/direct-download-links-for-unoff...
  - s3graham 17y ago
    I don't think this is Chromium OS, I think it's SUSE + the Chrome browser, as per http://www.getchrome.eu/ http://www.getchrome.eu/. Confusing though.
joe_the_user 17y ago
Chrome is open source yet seems to have a bunch of restrictions - no standard hard drives, no native apps, etc. What's to keep a third party from changing those restrictions?
- owlboy 17y ago
  Prolly not a lot.
- wmf 17y ago
  If you modify it then it's not Chrome OS™ any more; it's merely Chromium OS.
  - utexaspunk 17y ago
    Well all hail Chromium OS, then. Screw google...
- steveklabnik 17y ago
  Nothing. It's BSD licensed.
- jsz0 17y ago
  Nothing at all. I'm sure it will happen. If someone forks Chrome OS to add functionality it's very likely it will still be built on Google services. Google isn't interested in developing a full blown desktop OS themselves. If the community wants to add stuff maybe at some point in the future Google will fold some of it back into their official Chrome OS releases. Ultimately it's a product they're giving away for free so they clearly don't intend to make money directly off Chrome OS (or Android) so if you choose to get a Chrome OS variant from another source it doesn't really matter.
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cpr 17y ago
One thing that hit me watching the webcast was that Linux is going to get first-priority treatment from the Chrome browser guys.
- rms 17y ago
  Already Chromium on Linux is decidedly more stable than Chrome on Windows
c00p3r 17y ago
It uses X11, gdk-2.0 and clutter-1.0 for drawing, and gtk-2.0 widgets. All from your Ubuntu system on which you would build an image. So, it us just a layer on top of Ubuntu's "core" (glibc, X11, gtk, dpkg) with custom kernel, pam_google (!) desktop manager, window manager, installer and updater. Good coders code, great - reuse. This seems like Google's favorite mantra. update: http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=chromiumos.git;a=blob_plain;f=src/platform/init/preload-chrome.conf;hb=HEAD http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=chromiumos.git;... - to those who understands =)
- vegai 17y ago
  "Good coders code, great - reuse." This would work if the reusable stuff had been made by good coders.
patrickmclaren 17y ago
It's a nice concept. But I'm still paying out of my ass for broadband and I come close to, if not hit my limit every month. I couldn't imagine working with everything in the cloud, not for a few more years ;)

72 points by ypavan 17y ago

How many times is this going to get posted? That's not Chrome OS, it's the source code for the Chrome OS port of Chromium.

cx01 17y ago
Take a closer look at the projects listed on the right-hand side. There's much more than Chrome.
- deleted 17y ago
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- ypavan 17y ago
  True. Have a look at chromiumos.git, ibus, login_manager.git , pam_google.git, syslinux.git and kernel.git
teilo 17y ago
I assumed what you did, but looking closer, this is definitely the real deal, complete with the Google-patched 2.6.30 kernel. What I find interesting here is that ChromeOS has its own window manager for X. I was under the impression that the video system was something new. Does this mean that they still support X running on their own video subsystem? I predict that someone will start releasing self-compiled ChromiumOS builds running very soon.
- ErrantX 17y ago
  http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/software-architecture http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/s... According to that it looks like they are definitely using X. They seem to have made a lot of tweaks to low level firmware too.
- wmf 17y ago
  I was under the impression... You got suckered by completely unfounded rumors. (Don't feel bad, so did almost everyone else.)
ryandvm 17y ago
Eep - I apologize for making the assumption that this was another "Chromium for Chrome" post.

kilowatt 17y ago

Cool! The window manager is super tiny. And uses Clutter apparently: http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=chromiumos.git;a=blob;f=src/platform/window_manager/window_manager.cc;h=7b9f3f485f84a0c32bb29e65c2eb278b63617b96;hb=HEAD http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=chromiumos.git;... But just naively judging by the amount of code here this doesn't feel like the bombshell the tech press is expecting.

jshen 17y ago
judging by the amount of code? What kind of metric is that? The vision of the browser as the OS is huge.
- swannodette 17y ago
  It might be huge but it's all more than a bit scary coming from Google. Also I question the adoption rate of something like this. All my stuff in the cloud == EVIL as far I'm concerned.
  - chris100 17y ago
    The only things I still keep local on my drive: music my family pictures my email, contacts and calendar work files If you imagine a tablet/netbook with GoogleOS, I'm still scared to death of losing the network. There is some talk of offline storage, but the details are super-fuzzy. On a plane: where is my music or my videos? At my grandparents' place, where Interent is still not quite reliable In the middle of visiting Death Valley
    - xal 17y ago
      have a look at dropbox. It's not an either/or decision. You can have both.
  - jshen 17y ago
    "All my stuff in the cloud == EVIL as far I'm concerned." How is storing data in a certain place EVIL?

jacknero 17y ago

http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=chromiumos.git;a=blob;f=src/scripts/chromeos_version.sh;h=b571b5db1fa960f5a4b676ba0899b009ea30211c;hb=HEAD http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=chromiumos.git;... Maybe Official builds is Chrome OS Continuous builds and developer hand-builds is chronium OS

boundlessdreamz 17y ago

What is clone URL of the git repos? Not familiar with gitweb and not able to guess the repo URL

mbrubeck 17y ago
This is a cloneable URI: http://src.chromium.org/git/chromiumos.git http://src.chromium.org/git/chromiumos.git Here are complete instructions to download and build the source: http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/building-chromium-os http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/building-chromium-os And Google's Matt Cutts is liveblogging the annoucement webcast (includes links to other blog coverage): http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-os/ http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-os/

teilo 17y ago

Looks like they are inviting submissions now also: http://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/building-chromium-os/making-changes http://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/build...

ypavan 17y ago

Also at the same time, there seems to be live blogging sessions happening on the "Google Chrome OS" Event: * Live Webcast: http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/annc/20091119_chrome_os_webcast.html http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/annc/20091119_chrome_os_... * Looks like TechCrunch is covering the event, best: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/19/chrome-os-event/ http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/19/chrome-os-event/ * Matt Cutts: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-os/ http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-os/ * Danny Sullivan: http://searchengineland.com/liveblogging-the-google-chrome-os-press-conference-30156 http://searchengineland.com/liveblogging-the-google-chrome-o...

ypavan 17y ago
Youtube's GoogleChrome Channel has 5 new videos on the Chrome OS. http://www.youtube.com/user/googlechrome http://www.youtube.com/user/googlechrome

ypavan 17y ago

IMO, one interesting thing is about the native support for SSDs and elimination of long known & trustworthy HDDs. Clearly the sign of things happening!!

csbrooks 17y ago
SSDs, HHDs: Could I get some clarification on those TLAs? :)
- scott_s 17y ago
  Solid-state drives and hard-disk drives. HDDs are mechanical devices with spinning platters. SSDs have no moving parts; it's all silicon. (HHD is not what he mentioned, but it's a hybrid hard drive; solid state cache with normal disk drives.)
- ypavan 17y ago
  SSD = Solid State Device (Drive) HDD = Hard Disk Drive

csbrooks 17y ago

So, silly question here (and feel free to point me to a URL where I can learn the answer): at one time there was some buzz about being able to install Chrome OS on an old-ish laptop, and use it for web browsing. The implication was that it would perform better than, say, Windows XP with Firefox. Is this still a goal, anyone know? (I have a few old laptops laying around, and that sounds pretty neat to me...)

steveklabnik 17y ago
They've said they're only targetting netbooks for now, specifically ones with SSDs.
- csbrooks 17y ago
  Huh. That's understandable, but unfortunate for me. I wonder how hard it would be for someone to make this work on other machines. Would that mean strapping on some drivers, maybe grafted on from linux or something?
  - steveklabnik 17y ago
    You'd probably just have to reconfigure the kernel to load the drivers you'd require. I haven't looked through the code yet myself, but it shouldn't be too difficult.
GeneralMaximus 17y ago
It's just a Linux distro that launches Google Chrome on startup. You can run this on any standard x86 machine.

owlboy 17y ago

Any builds out there yet for me to throw into Virtual Box?

steveklabnik 17y ago
They said it works under virtualization already, so you could just go to chromium.org and download it yourself. The build process isn't too bad. http://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/building-chromium-os/build-instructions http://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/build...
- deleted 17y ago
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kennardsmith 17y ago
found a couple posted here: http://www.technixupdate.com/direct-download-links-for-unofficial-google-chrome-os/ http://www.technixupdate.com/direct-download-links-for-unoff...
- s3graham 17y ago
  I don't think this is Chromium OS, I think it's SUSE + the Chrome browser, as per http://www.getchrome.eu/ http://www.getchrome.eu/. Confusing though.

joe_the_user 17y ago

Chrome is open source yet seems to have a bunch of restrictions - no standard hard drives, no native apps, etc. What's to keep a third party from changing those restrictions?

owlboy 17y ago
Prolly not a lot.
wmf 17y ago
If you modify it then it's not Chrome OS™ any more; it's merely Chromium OS.
- utexaspunk 17y ago
  Well all hail Chromium OS, then. Screw google...
steveklabnik 17y ago
Nothing. It's BSD licensed.
jsz0 17y ago
Nothing at all. I'm sure it will happen. If someone forks Chrome OS to add functionality it's very likely it will still be built on Google services. Google isn't interested in developing a full blown desktop OS themselves. If the community wants to add stuff maybe at some point in the future Google will fold some of it back into their official Chrome OS releases. Ultimately it's a product they're giving away for free so they clearly don't intend to make money directly off Chrome OS (or Android) so if you choose to get a Chrome OS variant from another source it doesn't really matter.

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cpr 17y ago

One thing that hit me watching the webcast was that Linux is going to get first-priority treatment from the Chrome browser guys.

rms 17y ago
Already Chromium on Linux is decidedly more stable than Chrome on Windows

c00p3r 17y ago

It uses X11, gdk-2.0 and clutter-1.0 for drawing, and gtk-2.0 widgets. All from your Ubuntu system on which you would build an image. So, it us just a layer on top of Ubuntu's "core" (glibc, X11, gtk, dpkg) with custom kernel, pam_google (!) desktop manager, window manager, installer and updater. Good coders code, great - reuse. This seems like Google's favorite mantra. update: http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=chromiumos.git;a=blob_plain;f=src/platform/init/preload-chrome.conf;hb=HEAD http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=chromiumos.git;... - to those who understands =)

vegai 17y ago
"Good coders code, great - reuse." This would work if the reusable stuff had been made by good coders.

patrickmclaren 17y ago

It's a nice concept. But I'm still paying out of my ass for broadband and I come close to, if not hit my limit every month. I couldn't imagine working with everything in the cloud, not for a few more years ;)