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The really depressing thing is that even just 6 or 8 years ago, San Francisco was about all those things. It had artists, it made films, it valued culture and f

The really depressing thing is that even just 6 or 8 years ago, San Francisco was about all those things. It had artists, it made films, it valued culture and fun and creativity. I moved here 6 years ago for exactly those things, but even then I noticed it was changing. Now the artists and filmmakers and musicians have mostly left - moved to Oakland or LA or elsewhere. In a way, our moving here destroyed the things we moved here for.

beatpanda 11y ago
By God, one of you finally admitted it.
- api 11y ago
  The places utilitarian careerists create are miserable alienating cultural wastelands. As a result, they are repelled from the places they create and drawn to "artsy" cities and neighborhoods. When they arrive they bid up the price of real estate and drive out the natives. Rinse and repeat. If only the humanities had any economic value.
  - nether 11y ago
    Yeah, we see it in LA. My girlfriend and I ate at a trendy gastropub (top pick from an LA Times critic) and were unfortunately seated next to a pair of Googlers (long communal tables). They were just namedropping all the cool cities they've lived in (London for this, NYC for that) while talking about their jobs and college (which looked like it was at least five years ago for them). It was nauseating.
  - kitsune_ 11y ago
    That process is called gentrification.
    - api 11y ago
      It's a cycle. Once the artists and other culture creators are driven out, the careerists move on and the descent begins.
kpennell 11y ago
It's still a very nice place to live but it's not a funky creative mecca. If you just accept sf as a really nice place to program from, you can appreciate it more.
PopeOfNope 11y ago
We all have our own perspectives and bias. I moved out to SF 8 years ago and left 1 year ago. During that time, I was nothing but disappointed with SF and its so called "creative culture." Everybody I spoke to said it was so much better 7-8 years before that (just before the dot com bust). And yet, I have difficulty finding notable art that was made in San Francisco that doesn't date back to the 70s.

beatpanda 11y ago

By God, one of you finally admitted it.

api 11y ago
The places utilitarian careerists create are miserable alienating cultural wastelands. As a result, they are repelled from the places they create and drawn to "artsy" cities and neighborhoods. When they arrive they bid up the price of real estate and drive out the natives. Rinse and repeat. If only the humanities had any economic value.
- nether 11y ago
  Yeah, we see it in LA. My girlfriend and I ate at a trendy gastropub (top pick from an LA Times critic) and were unfortunately seated next to a pair of Googlers (long communal tables). They were just namedropping all the cool cities they've lived in (London for this, NYC for that) while talking about their jobs and college (which looked like it was at least five years ago for them). It was nauseating.
- kitsune_ 11y ago
  That process is called gentrification.
  - api 11y ago
    It's a cycle. Once the artists and other culture creators are driven out, the careerists move on and the descent begins.

kpennell 11y ago

It's still a very nice place to live but it's not a funky creative mecca. If you just accept sf as a really nice place to program from, you can appreciate it more.

PopeOfNope 11y ago

We all have our own perspectives and bias. I moved out to SF 8 years ago and left 1 year ago. During that time, I was nothing but disappointed with SF and its so called "creative culture." Everybody I spoke to said it was so much better 7-8 years before that (just before the dot com bust). And yet, I have difficulty finding notable art that was made in San Francisco that doesn't date back to the 70s.