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Actually, soekris were pretty good but they are kinda outdated. I just got an apu1d4 from pcengines[0] and OpenBSD works like a charm on it. Half the price, muc

Actually, soekris were pretty good but they are kinda outdated. I just got an apu1d4 from pcengines[0] and OpenBSD works like a charm on it. Half the price, much more power. [0] http://www.pcengines.ch/apu1d4.htm http://www.pcengines.ch/apu1d4.htm

zmyrgel 11y ago
You need to look a bit closer to see the difference. APU uses cheaper realtek NIC and soekris uses Intel's. Soekris gives Intel QuickAssist to help encryption (VPN etc.). And soekris is showing up a new model later this year: http://soekris.com/products/net6801.html http://soekris.com/products/net6801.html But PC-engines boards are nice for their price. I'm considering to get one at home. That or spend a bit more on soekris box/
- gcb0 11y ago
  damn. you people are like audiophiles for network. ...is there a name for that already? those two boards have more CPU power than my home theater PC... which crunches 720p video all day long without a decent GPU.
  - wtallis 11y ago
    This is nothing like the absurdities of the audiophile community. Routing traffic just isn't as trivial as you think it is, and going with cheap NICs that are missing important features and have lower-quality drivers will produce measurable and significant differences in objective benchmarks. If you have something like a 100Mbps cable connection, you can't use just any off-the-shelf hardware and expect to solve any problems in software.
    - gcb0 11y ago
      Thats what an audiophile would say ;)
      - Alexqw85 11y ago
        I'm going to re-quote the parent for you. > Routing traffic just isn't as trivial as you think it is ---Alex
      - wtallis 11y ago
        It's also what the IETF says. Don't belittle those who are trying to fix the problems you're frustrated with but can't be bothered to understand.
- rjsw 11y ago
  The NIC used is also important if you need the router to do PPPoE. Most Intel ones will support jumbo frames which can let you still get 1500 byte packets to the ISP.

zmyrgel 11y ago

You need to look a bit closer to see the difference. APU uses cheaper realtek NIC and soekris uses Intel's. Soekris gives Intel QuickAssist to help encryption (VPN etc.). And soekris is showing up a new model later this year: http://soekris.com/products/net6801.html http://soekris.com/products/net6801.html But PC-engines boards are nice for their price. I'm considering to get one at home. That or spend a bit more on soekris box/

gcb0 11y ago
damn. you people are like audiophiles for network. ...is there a name for that already? those two boards have more CPU power than my home theater PC... which crunches 720p video all day long without a decent GPU.
- wtallis 11y ago
  This is nothing like the absurdities of the audiophile community. Routing traffic just isn't as trivial as you think it is, and going with cheap NICs that are missing important features and have lower-quality drivers will produce measurable and significant differences in objective benchmarks. If you have something like a 100Mbps cable connection, you can't use just any off-the-shelf hardware and expect to solve any problems in software.
  - gcb0 11y ago
    Thats what an audiophile would say ;)
    - Alexqw85 11y ago
      I'm going to re-quote the parent for you. > Routing traffic just isn't as trivial as you think it is ---Alex
    - wtallis 11y ago
      It's also what the IETF says. Don't belittle those who are trying to fix the problems you're frustrated with but can't be bothered to understand.
rjsw 11y ago
The NIC used is also important if you need the router to do PPPoE. Most Intel ones will support jumbo frames which can let you still get 1500 byte packets to the ISP.