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Normal alcohol dosage doesn't lead to massive loss of control

by peteretep 12y ago

jpatokal 12y ago
Neither does normal drug use. It's the alcoholics (read: alcohol drug abusers) who let things get out of hand.
- DanBC 12y ago
  Someone who is alcoholic will be drinking vast quantities of alcohol everyday. A person can drink far far less than that and suffer ill effects because of alcohol.
saiya-jin 12y ago
Alcohol is drug like any other. I guess everybody seen some people get aggressive even on moderate alcohol high. Tobacco is probably the worst drug ever consumed by man, considering amount of death and suffering it causes... None of drugs are a blessing to mankind, but to consider A OK and even promote it, and destroy people's lives and promote drug cartels for B, where many times B is not more harmful then A is... stupid. And we as society want to evolve and get better, right?
- MichaelGG 12y ago
  > None of drugs are a blessing to mankind Great for you that you never needed medication. Meanwhile, millions of people do, and drugs, from mood stabilizers to opiates to psychedelics, directly and dramatically increase the quality of life for many people.
- tajen 12y ago
  > I guess everybody seen some people get aggressive on alcohol I'm French and when I moved to Australia, I was surprised that people were violent under alcohol. The very broad generalization for me was that for some reason, anglosaxon people were violent under the effect of alcohol: Was it because boys were told that alcohol made them violent? According to the linked study, there is indeed a large difference of alcohol-related patterns per country. Hence, violence is partly cultural. Findings from survey research further suggest that alcohol’s contributing role may be at least partly attributable to the perpetrator’s drinking pattern and expectations about the effects of alcohol. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170096/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170096/
- vonmoltke 12y ago
  > Tobacco is probably the worst drug ever consumed by man, considering amount of death and suffering it causes... That is only because tobacco is much more widespread than meth, crack, and opium. The dangers of tobacco get inflated almost as much the dangers of other drugs get deflated.
juliangregorian 12y ago
What's a "normal alcohol dosage"? When I was younger I used to blackout drink every weekend, and most of my friends did too. Very normal, definitely "massive loss of control".
- talmand 12y ago
  The first time you black out, you know your own personal "maximum alcohol dosage". After that, scale back to find your "normal alcohol dosage" and act accordingly.
  - juliangregorian 12y ago
    Interesting definition for the word "normal" you have there.
    - talmand 12y ago
      Why?
    - nostrebored 12y ago
      I think that not giving myself brain damage is normal. While I've never gotten blackout drunk, I've gotten close, and I know what the buildup to blacking out feels like, and I always stop drinking if I get that feeling. All of my friends do the same.
      - juliangregorian 12y ago
        Being blackout drunk doesn't feel like anything. You just can't remember anything after a certain point the night before. And while I appreciate the moralizing, I don't hang out with those people anymore, but for a lot of people it is "normal" in the sense that it is what they do habitually and with the tacit approval of their social circle.
        nostrebored 12y ago
atom-morgan 12y ago
Nearly all of my drug related regrets were under the influence of alcohol.
mvanvoorden 12y ago
Normal or small dosage of LSD also doesn't lead to loss of control. Personally, even a big dosage has never lead to massive loss of control.
vectorpush 12y ago
Unlike most other drugs, alcohol intoxication greatly increases the likelihood that you will consume more alcohol, thus leading to a compounding cycle that can very quickly lead to an unintentional "massive loss of control". Unintentionally consuming more than a "normal dose" is perhaps the quintessential regret of habitual alcohol users.
- peteretep 12y ago
  > Unlike most other drugs, alcohol intoxication greatly > increases the likelihood that you will consume more > alcohol Unlike most other drugs? Your dealer may be ripping you off and selling you baby powder. Try giving someone a 300ml dose of Everclear and see if their alcohol consumption increases after that. Now give someone a line of cocaine and tell them you have some more on you, and time how long it is before they suggest taking some more...
angersock 12y ago
Neither does LSD...?

Normal alcohol dosage doesn't lead to massive loss of control

jpatokal 12y ago

Neither does normal drug use. It's the alcoholics (read: alcohol drug abusers) who let things get out of hand.

DanBC 12y ago
Someone who is alcoholic will be drinking vast quantities of alcohol everyday. A person can drink far far less than that and suffer ill effects because of alcohol.

saiya-jin 12y ago

Alcohol is drug like any other. I guess everybody seen some people get aggressive even on moderate alcohol high. Tobacco is probably the worst drug ever consumed by man, considering amount of death and suffering it causes... None of drugs are a blessing to mankind, but to consider A OK and even promote it, and destroy people's lives and promote drug cartels for B, where many times B is not more harmful then A is... stupid. And we as society want to evolve and get better, right?

MichaelGG 12y ago
> None of drugs are a blessing to mankind Great for you that you never needed medication. Meanwhile, millions of people do, and drugs, from mood stabilizers to opiates to psychedelics, directly and dramatically increase the quality of life for many people.
tajen 12y ago
> I guess everybody seen some people get aggressive on alcohol I'm French and when I moved to Australia, I was surprised that people were violent under alcohol. The very broad generalization for me was that for some reason, anglosaxon people were violent under the effect of alcohol: Was it because boys were told that alcohol made them violent? According to the linked study, there is indeed a large difference of alcohol-related patterns per country. Hence, violence is partly cultural. Findings from survey research further suggest that alcohol’s contributing role may be at least partly attributable to the perpetrator’s drinking pattern and expectations about the effects of alcohol. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170096/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170096/
vonmoltke 12y ago
> Tobacco is probably the worst drug ever consumed by man, considering amount of death and suffering it causes... That is only because tobacco is much more widespread than meth, crack, and opium. The dangers of tobacco get inflated almost as much the dangers of other drugs get deflated.

juliangregorian 12y ago

What's a "normal alcohol dosage"? When I was younger I used to blackout drink every weekend, and most of my friends did too. Very normal, definitely "massive loss of control".

talmand 12y ago
The first time you black out, you know your own personal "maximum alcohol dosage". After that, scale back to find your "normal alcohol dosage" and act accordingly.
- juliangregorian 12y ago
  Interesting definition for the word "normal" you have there.
  - talmand 12y ago
    Why?
  - nostrebored 12y ago
    I think that not giving myself brain damage is normal. While I've never gotten blackout drunk, I've gotten close, and I know what the buildup to blacking out feels like, and I always stop drinking if I get that feeling. All of my friends do the same.
    - juliangregorian 12y ago
      Being blackout drunk doesn't feel like anything. You just can't remember anything after a certain point the night before. And while I appreciate the moralizing, I don't hang out with those people anymore, but for a lot of people it is "normal" in the sense that it is what they do habitually and with the tacit approval of their social circle.
      - nostrebored 12y ago

atom-morgan 12y ago

Nearly all of my drug related regrets were under the influence of alcohol.

mvanvoorden 12y ago

Normal or small dosage of LSD also doesn't lead to loss of control. Personally, even a big dosage has never lead to massive loss of control.

vectorpush 12y ago

Unlike most other drugs, alcohol intoxication greatly increases the likelihood that you will consume more alcohol, thus leading to a compounding cycle that can very quickly lead to an unintentional "massive loss of control". Unintentionally consuming more than a "normal dose" is perhaps the quintessential regret of habitual alcohol users.

peteretep 12y ago
> Unlike most other drugs, alcohol intoxication greatly > increases the likelihood that you will consume more > alcohol Unlike most other drugs? Your dealer may be ripping you off and selling you baby powder. Try giving someone a 300ml dose of Everclear and see if their alcohol consumption increases after that. Now give someone a line of cocaine and tell them you have some more on you, and time how long it is before they suggest taking some more...

angersock 12y ago

Neither does LSD...?