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> Italy makes it remarkably easy for descendants of Italian emigrants to claim citizenship, for example Hm... No. It took me 4 years to obtain my Italian citi

by dataker 11y ago

> Italy makes it remarkably easy for descendants of Italian emigrants to claim citizenship, for example Hm... No. It took me 4 years to obtain my Italian citizenship(from my mother). We almost had a court battle for them to accept a missing letter(literally).

davidw 11y ago
> It took me 4 years... As a resident of Italy, I'm going to say: yes, that was easy by Italian standards :-)
IkmoIkmo 11y ago
Friend of my dad's moved to Italy, learned to speak the language fluently and spent every day of his 20 years or so there working hard and being an upstanding citizen. He started a family there, but because he missed some paperwork early on, his kids never became Italians and neither did he or his wife. So yeah his kids were born in Italy, all grew up in Italy, speak Italian fluently (natively), went to school there etc, but eventually they all moved away as they don't have citizenship. They're now mostly in the US. They run businesses and all have advanced degrees. My dad spoke with him a few times about getting citizenship but it'd be a very long process. They've essentially committed to a life elsewhere. In other words, there seems to be absolutely no reason for them not to be Italians, other than some kafkaesque messed up bureaucracy that servers no actual purpose.
- davidw 11y ago
  > kafkaesque messed up bureaucracy This kind of describes immigration bureaucracy anywhere and everywhere. Here's Linus Torvalds on some of the hassles he had: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3655 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3655 (search for green card). That's the kind of person you should be laying out the red carpet for.
- dataker 11y ago
  For my own experience, it helps if you are physically 'applying' and, even so, trying regions that are 'more efficient'. I'd given up on foreign consulates and southern Italian comunes before finally getting it.
atmosx 11y ago
Weird, where you from? I got both (Greek and Italian) citizenships the moment I was born (my mother is from Sicily) and I was born (and currently live) in Greece.
- dataker 11y ago
  Reside in the U.S and was born in Chile, so it's probably a bit harder if one is outside the EU
misiti3780 11y ago
i have been working on it for 3 years now .... they just started charging 350 EU for the appointment at the embassy, even if they do not give you the citizenship

by dataker 11y ago

davidw 11y ago

> It took me 4 years... As a resident of Italy, I'm going to say: yes, that was easy by Italian standards :-)

IkmoIkmo 11y ago

Friend of my dad's moved to Italy, learned to speak the language fluently and spent every day of his 20 years or so there working hard and being an upstanding citizen. He started a family there, but because he missed some paperwork early on, his kids never became Italians and neither did he or his wife. So yeah his kids were born in Italy, all grew up in Italy, speak Italian fluently (natively), went to school there etc, but eventually they all moved away as they don't have citizenship. They're now mostly in the US. They run businesses and all have advanced degrees. My dad spoke with him a few times about getting citizenship but it'd be a very long process. They've essentially committed to a life elsewhere. In other words, there seems to be absolutely no reason for them not to be Italians, other than some kafkaesque messed up bureaucracy that servers no actual purpose.

davidw 11y ago
> kafkaesque messed up bureaucracy This kind of describes immigration bureaucracy anywhere and everywhere. Here's Linus Torvalds on some of the hassles he had: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3655 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3655 (search for green card). That's the kind of person you should be laying out the red carpet for.
dataker 11y ago
For my own experience, it helps if you are physically 'applying' and, even so, trying regions that are 'more efficient'. I'd given up on foreign consulates and southern Italian comunes before finally getting it.

atmosx 11y ago

Weird, where you from? I got both (Greek and Italian) citizenships the moment I was born (my mother is from Sicily) and I was born (and currently live) in Greece.

dataker 11y ago
Reside in the U.S and was born in Chile, so it's probably a bit harder if one is outside the EU

misiti3780 11y ago

i have been working on it for 3 years now .... they just started charging 350 EU for the appointment at the embassy, even if they do not give you the citizenship