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The idea that women are a minority group on college campuses is laughable. How can you be marginalized when you control public opinion and make up 55-75% of st

by douche 12y ago

The idea that women are a minority group on college campuses is laughable. How can you be marginalized when you control public opinion and make up 55-75% of students?

theVirginian 12y ago
Hey! Get those facts out of here!
SwellJoe 12y ago
You can be marginalized if you only make up a small percentage of the executive and administrative staff. Students don't have significant power on most university campuses...administrators and wealthy alumni tend to hold the reigns. And, at some universities, the football team administrators hold a stunning amount of power. Just like in a city urban center that is predominantly black, but the police, judges, city council and mayor are all predominantly white. Number of people does not necessarily equal power.
- douche 12y ago
  I'm going to invoke identity politics and say that this does not match my lived experiences. All of the deans I ever dealt with at my Ivy League college were women. And Buddy Teevens did not hold an amount of power that could stun a fourth-string walk-on fullback into a concussion.
  - SwellJoe 12y ago
    I think it is reasonable to say that progress has been made and is being made, but there is still an imbalance that is not representative of the population at large, and probably does not accurately represent the number of qualified women and people of color who could be in positions of power within universities. https://chronicle.com/article/Who-Are-College-Presidents-/131138/ https://chronicle.com/article/Who-Are-College-Presidents-/13... There are probably also interesting conversations to have about why men are graduating college less than women, particularly black men, who attend college at a rate much lower than any other demographic in the US, including black women. It's tempting to make it "us against them" (no matter who the "us" is), but, it's probably not useful except for the most powerful (who do tend to be white and male, though not all white males fit into that category).
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nav1 12y ago
You don't have to be in a minority in order to be marginalised. It's like saying that since black people make up the majority of South Africa, the idea that the white minority could oppress them is laughable. It has more to do with power than numbers.
detcader 12y ago
>when you control public opinion What does this mean and where is the actual documentary evidence to back it up (assuming that whatever it means would need such things)?

by douche 12y ago

The idea that women are a minority group on college campuses is laughable. How can you be marginalized when you control public opinion and make up 55-75% of students?

theVirginian 12y ago

Hey! Get those facts out of here!

SwellJoe 12y ago

You can be marginalized if you only make up a small percentage of the executive and administrative staff. Students don't have significant power on most university campuses...administrators and wealthy alumni tend to hold the reigns. And, at some universities, the football team administrators hold a stunning amount of power. Just like in a city urban center that is predominantly black, but the police, judges, city council and mayor are all predominantly white. Number of people does not necessarily equal power.

douche 12y ago
I'm going to invoke identity politics and say that this does not match my lived experiences. All of the deans I ever dealt with at my Ivy League college were women. And Buddy Teevens did not hold an amount of power that could stun a fourth-string walk-on fullback into a concussion.
- SwellJoe 12y ago
  I think it is reasonable to say that progress has been made and is being made, but there is still an imbalance that is not representative of the population at large, and probably does not accurately represent the number of qualified women and people of color who could be in positions of power within universities. https://chronicle.com/article/Who-Are-College-Presidents-/131138/ https://chronicle.com/article/Who-Are-College-Presidents-/13... There are probably also interesting conversations to have about why men are graduating college less than women, particularly black men, who attend college at a rate much lower than any other demographic in the US, including black women. It's tempting to make it "us against them" (no matter who the "us" is), but, it's probably not useful except for the most powerful (who do tend to be white and male, though not all white males fit into that category).
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nav1 12y ago

You don't have to be in a minority in order to be marginalised. It's like saying that since black people make up the majority of South Africa, the idea that the white minority could oppress them is laughable. It has more to do with power than numbers.

detcader 12y ago

>when you control public opinion What does this mean and where is the actual documentary evidence to back it up (assuming that whatever it means would need such things)?