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FWIW a friend and myself were very inspired by Light Table, Chris Granger and Brett Victor. We've been working on applying these ideas to C#. We've built http:

by Permit 12y ago

FWIW a friend and myself were very inspired by Light Table, Chris Granger and Brett Victor. We've been working on applying these ideas to C#. We've built http://codeconnect.io http://codeconnect.io for a function-by-function view of C# code. Now we're currently finishing up live coding: http://imgur.com/2QE5Bkw.gif http://imgur.com/2QE5Bkw.gif People have expressed sadness about the current state of Light Table. I think Chris did a phenomenal job demonstrating some of these ideas and exposing them to the developer community at large.

seanmcdirmid 12y ago
Interesting. What's your plan for dealing with state?
- Permit 12y ago
  Run their code via unit tests. We've assumed if you've written a unit test for a function, the state will be taken care of.
  - seanmcdirmid 12y ago
    Ah, this is similar to what Gilad Bracha is doing in his live programming work for NewSpeak.
    - Permit 12y ago
      That sounds really interesting, can you share any articles or videos about his work on live programming?
      - seanmcdirmid 12y ago
        It was some things he demonstrated at WGLD meetings; here is a blog post with the same title as his talk: http://gbracha.blogspot.com/2012/11/debug-mode-is-only-mode.html http://gbracha.blogspot.com/2012/11/debug-mode-is-only-mode.... And later: http://gbracha.blogspot.com/2013/04/making-methods-live.html http://gbracha.blogspot.com/2013/04/making-methods-live.html He is giving a keynote at ECOOP on the topic in June.
- amadeusw 12y ago
  seanmcdirmid I just checked out your paper about live coding (with pacman video). Did you see http://worrydream.com/LearnableProgramming/ http://worrydream.com/LearnableProgramming/ ? Do you guys consider collaborating?
  - seanmcdirmid 12y ago
    I saw that in 2012 (I started my own research in 2007). At the time...I sent an email to Bret Victor, but he never replied (I hear he is busy).
  - seanmcdirmid 12y ago
    The pacman video paper is really old (2007), you should check out my newer ones :)
mc_hammer 12y ago
that looks really good dood.. i was gonna do the same thing for Go/Node. keep up the good work.
martijn_himself 12y ago
Your plug-in for Visual Studio looks amazing- such a good idea. I'm always lost dragging windows around and using (shift) F12.
quadrature 12y ago
Is amadeus still there ?
- Permit 12y ago
  Yup, we both still work on it. Amadeus from Vancouver and myself from Waterloo, ON.
- amadeusw 12y ago
  Reporting in!
  - quadrature 12y ago
    baldus!

by Permit 12y ago

seanmcdirmid 12y ago

Interesting. What's your plan for dealing with state?

Permit 12y ago
Run their code via unit tests. We've assumed if you've written a unit test for a function, the state will be taken care of.
- seanmcdirmid 12y ago
  Ah, this is similar to what Gilad Bracha is doing in his live programming work for NewSpeak.
  - Permit 12y ago
    That sounds really interesting, can you share any articles or videos about his work on live programming?
    - seanmcdirmid 12y ago
      It was some things he demonstrated at WGLD meetings; here is a blog post with the same title as his talk: http://gbracha.blogspot.com/2012/11/debug-mode-is-only-mode.html http://gbracha.blogspot.com/2012/11/debug-mode-is-only-mode.... And later: http://gbracha.blogspot.com/2013/04/making-methods-live.html http://gbracha.blogspot.com/2013/04/making-methods-live.html He is giving a keynote at ECOOP on the topic in June.
amadeusw 12y ago
seanmcdirmid I just checked out your paper about live coding (with pacman video). Did you see http://worrydream.com/LearnableProgramming/ http://worrydream.com/LearnableProgramming/ ? Do you guys consider collaborating?
- seanmcdirmid 12y ago
  I saw that in 2012 (I started my own research in 2007). At the time...I sent an email to Bret Victor, but he never replied (I hear he is busy).
- seanmcdirmid 12y ago
  The pacman video paper is really old (2007), you should check out my newer ones :)

mc_hammer 12y ago

that looks really good dood.. i was gonna do the same thing for Go/Node. keep up the good work.

martijn_himself 12y ago

Your plug-in for Visual Studio looks amazing- such a good idea. I'm always lost dragging windows around and using (shift) F12.

quadrature 12y ago

Is amadeus still there ?

Permit 12y ago
Yup, we both still work on it. Amadeus from Vancouver and myself from Waterloo, ON.
amadeusw 12y ago
Reporting in!
- quadrature 12y ago
  baldus!