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I used Mailman for more than 10 years, to run a fairly large (3,000-person) list. Before that, I had used a number of other mailing list managers. It's true t
by reuven 12y ago
I used Mailman for more than 10 years, to run a fairly large (3,000-person) list. Before that, I had used a number of other mailing list managers.
It's true that Mailman was rock solid. But it had a number of features that made it difficult for users and administrators alike.
In particular, users who were not computer savvy complained bitterly that they couldn't easily search through the archives, couldn't understand how to subscribe and unsubscribe themselves, and that the archives (in their repeated messages to the moderators) didn't look like the mailing lists on Google and Yahoo.
In other words, it wasn't sufficient to have solid software. Mailman needed a modern UI. It took some time, but that moment seems to have come. It's a bit too late for me; for a variety of reasons (many having nothing to do with Mailman), I recently moved my mailing list to Google Groups.
I'm very happy to see this new set of functionality aimed at making Mailman relevant for a new generation of users. Kudos to the maintainers for sticking with the project, and for providing a valuable service that shouldn't need to be outsourced to third parties. And for not only pushing forward with the internals, but also on the UI. It looks quite snazzy and impressive, and should help to keep Mailman relevant for many more years.
- e12e 12y agoTo be fair, Google Groups is a terrible UI. I'm surprised about the problems they had with (un)subscribing -- the web ui has always been a controversial part of Mailman, but intended for those that think the email UI is too hard to use. FWIW I actually think it's much easier to manage subscriptions to Mailman (via the web UI) than to manage them on Google Groups. As for search and archive -- yeah, those have been in need of a facelift for a long, long time. I've been toying with doing something about them myself, but have hold off, waiting to see what Mailman 3 would ship with.
- hobarrera 12y ago> [...] the archives didn't look like the mailing lists on Google and Yahoo. IMHO, this is a feature, and an important one, not something bad.