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Not extortion. Free speech. Freedom of speech means the freedom to criticize. As long as hate sites make clear that they are not affiliated with the thing they

Not extortion. Free speech. Freedom of speech means the freedom to criticize. As long as hate sites make clear that they are not affiliated with the thing they criticize, let them say what they want. If it's false information, sue them for libel. If it's true, get your shit together.

dynofuz 12y ago
the extortion part is heightened by the registrar for .sucks where it is asking organizations who own the trademark to pay 2500/yr to get a domain name
- adwf 12y ago
  The possible upside is that if it's trademarked, no-one else should be to register the domain name either. However, that all depends on the rigourousness of the registrar...
  - aroch 12y ago
    Except that's not the case. The .sucks registrar is selling the trdemark-related domain for $10/y to someone who wants to criticize $Trademark, while it would cost $TrademarkCompany $2500/y. You can buy $yourname.sucks for $200/y, but someone who wants to criticize you can buy it for $10/y. Tiered pricing that charges more to people who aren't looking to disparage themselves is predatory.
    - nashashmi 12y ago
      > Tiered pricing that charges more to people who aren't looking to disparage themselves is predatory. Or its bribery to prevent free speech.
    - chii 12y ago
      it ought to be illegal to discriminate between buyers - it should either be open season auction, highest bidder wins, or a flat price for everything, but with trademark disputes process.
    - adwf 12y ago
      Ah, I didn't realise they had tiered pricing, I thought it was just $2500 across the board. I guess I must read the articles a bit more closely. I can't imagine that this will go well for the .sucks registrar in court - looks like plain extortion to me, although IANAL of course ;)
    - pjc50 12y ago
      That's hilarious. How did that get past the ICANN process?
      - mcguire 12y ago
        ICANN has a process? No, really, they're just making stuff up as they go along. The idea of this kind of "extortion" has been around for decades, since the early rounds of DNS root name expansion.
        duskwuff 12y ago
        Sure they have a process! You pay them the $185k application fee, and you get your TLD. That's a process, right? /s
- normloman 12y ago
  Ah, yeah true. At least no one's forcing them to buy.
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dynofuz 12y ago

the extortion part is heightened by the registrar for .sucks where it is asking organizations who own the trademark to pay 2500/yr to get a domain name

adwf 12y ago
The possible upside is that if it's trademarked, no-one else should be to register the domain name either. However, that all depends on the rigourousness of the registrar...
- aroch 12y ago
  Except that's not the case. The .sucks registrar is selling the trdemark-related domain for $10/y to someone who wants to criticize $Trademark, while it would cost $TrademarkCompany $2500/y. You can buy $yourname.sucks for $200/y, but someone who wants to criticize you can buy it for $10/y. Tiered pricing that charges more to people who aren't looking to disparage themselves is predatory.
  - nashashmi 12y ago
    > Tiered pricing that charges more to people who aren't looking to disparage themselves is predatory. Or its bribery to prevent free speech.
  - chii 12y ago
    it ought to be illegal to discriminate between buyers - it should either be open season auction, highest bidder wins, or a flat price for everything, but with trademark disputes process.
  - adwf 12y ago
    Ah, I didn't realise they had tiered pricing, I thought it was just $2500 across the board. I guess I must read the articles a bit more closely. I can't imagine that this will go well for the .sucks registrar in court - looks like plain extortion to me, although IANAL of course ;)
  - pjc50 12y ago
    That's hilarious. How did that get past the ICANN process?
    - mcguire 12y ago
      ICANN has a process? No, really, they're just making stuff up as they go along. The idea of this kind of "extortion" has been around for decades, since the early rounds of DNS root name expansion.
      - duskwuff 12y ago
        Sure they have a process! You pay them the $185k application fee, and you get your TLD. That's a process, right? /s
normloman 12y ago
Ah, yeah true. At least no one's forcing them to buy.
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