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I have the same question. Without a doubt GitHub seems to be a perfect channel for that. I'm wondering where is the spam border? Let's say I'll manually choose

I have the same question. Without a doubt GitHub seems to be a perfect channel for that. I'm wondering where is the spam border? Let's say I'll manually choose 100 developers who seem to be a good fit for early adopters and manually mail them something like "Hi! I'm X from Y. Here at G we are doing Z for developers like you. I'd appreciate your feedback" I'm afraid that some of these people would still consider this spam, even if the intentions are genuine.

chinathrow 12y ago
It simply does not matter if you mail them manually or automatically. All what matters, is that you obey the e-commerce laws of the recipient. If this requires opt-in, you need the recipients consent before you send those mails.
chinathrow 12y ago
The spam border is the law. Read it, understand it, don't spam.
- ArekDymalski 12y ago
  That's why I'm asking here becuase I'd like to understand better what I read. In the definition of spam I see unsolicited and bulk. While it's clear that any first email to a new contact is unsolicited I wonder how can I reach new contacts in a way which will be: -legal -not annoying to the recipients (because when I read the definitions of spam I can imagine campaigns which comply to the rules but still are colloquially considered as spam)
  - chinathrow 12y ago
    Go ask your lawyer - because it's complicated. http://www.lsoft.com/resources/optinlaws.asp http://www.lsoft.com/resources/optinlaws.asp E.g. B2B in Europe: "For business-to-business communication (B2B), i.e. "legal persons", EU member states are free to make opt-out the minimum legislation. However, national legislation of member states can require opt-in for B2B email communication too." Then let's say the recipient is in Germany: http://www.marke-x.de/deutsch/webmarketing/archiv/email_marketing-recht.htm http://www.marke-x.de/deutsch/webmarketing/archiv/email_mark... Go read it with a translator.
mathgeek 12y ago
In interested to hear you elaborate more on what you consider to be genuine about such an email. Most spammers believe that their emails aren't spam.
- ArekDymalski 12y ago
  To me genuine is the fact that I'm really interested in their feedback. Ingenuine act would be to buy or automatically harvest an email database and push out the same emails without checking who the recipients are and if the message really applies to them.
shawabawa3 12y ago
> I'm afraid that some of these people would still consider this spam Because it is. It's unsolicited mass emailing A genuine email would be "Hi, this is X from Y, we met at Z and you told me you were interested in A, I have a few startups doing work around A, B and C, would you be interested?" Or something like that
- asadlionpk 12y ago
  Yes that would be a genuine email but wouldn't apply in this case. How can Gradberry send genuine emails.

chinathrow 12y ago

It simply does not matter if you mail them manually or automatically. All what matters, is that you obey the e-commerce laws of the recipient. If this requires opt-in, you need the recipients consent before you send those mails.

chinathrow 12y ago

The spam border is the law. Read it, understand it, don't spam.

ArekDymalski 12y ago
That's why I'm asking here becuase I'd like to understand better what I read. In the definition of spam I see unsolicited and bulk. While it's clear that any first email to a new contact is unsolicited I wonder how can I reach new contacts in a way which will be: -legal -not annoying to the recipients (because when I read the definitions of spam I can imagine campaigns which comply to the rules but still are colloquially considered as spam)
- chinathrow 12y ago
  Go ask your lawyer - because it's complicated. http://www.lsoft.com/resources/optinlaws.asp http://www.lsoft.com/resources/optinlaws.asp E.g. B2B in Europe: "For business-to-business communication (B2B), i.e. "legal persons", EU member states are free to make opt-out the minimum legislation. However, national legislation of member states can require opt-in for B2B email communication too." Then let's say the recipient is in Germany: http://www.marke-x.de/deutsch/webmarketing/archiv/email_marketing-recht.htm http://www.marke-x.de/deutsch/webmarketing/archiv/email_mark... Go read it with a translator.

mathgeek 12y ago

In interested to hear you elaborate more on what you consider to be genuine about such an email. Most spammers believe that their emails aren't spam.

ArekDymalski 12y ago
To me genuine is the fact that I'm really interested in their feedback. Ingenuine act would be to buy or automatically harvest an email database and push out the same emails without checking who the recipients are and if the message really applies to them.

shawabawa3 12y ago

> I'm afraid that some of these people would still consider this spam Because it is. It's unsolicited mass emailing A genuine email would be "Hi, this is X from Y, we met at Z and you told me you were interested in A, I have a few startups doing work around A, B and C, would you be interested?" Or something like that

asadlionpk 12y ago
Yes that would be a genuine email but wouldn't apply in this case. How can Gradberry send genuine emails.