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I thought the Catholic church was ok with evolution, the big bang theory, etc.

by ylem 12y ago

acqq 12y ago
From the article: "When I again pointed out that John Paul accepted evolution—and he certainly wasn’t an atheist—the student countered that Catholics aren’t Christians. Several simply let me know they will be praying for me and praying hard. One student explained that as a devout Catholic he had no choice but to reject evolution. He accused me of fabricating the pope’s statements. When I explained that he could go to the Vatican website for verification or call the Vatican to talk to a scientist, he insisted that there was no such information available from the Vatican. He then pointed his finger at me and said the only way he would believe me is if Pope John Paul II came to my class to confirm these quotes face-to-face. The student then stomped out, again slamming the auditorium door behind him." From the Pope's mouth (2007): http://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/speeches/2007/july/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20070724_clero-cadore.html http://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/speeches/2007/j... "Currently, I see in Germany, but also in the United States, a somewhat fierce debate raging between so-called "creationism" and evolutionism, presented as though they were mutually exclusive alternatives: those who believe in the Creator would not be able to conceive of evolution, and those who instead support evolution would have to exclude God. This antithesis is absurd because (...) there are so many scientific proofs in favour of evolution which appears to be a reality we can see and which enriches our knowledge of life and being as such."
RogerL 12y ago
It is, but as significant number of people have not gotten the memo, or have been told but refuse to accept it.
marcosdumay 12y ago
It is. But some people will believe in anything they want, and are completely sure that they have institutional support. (And the fact that even the institution is questionable won't even cross their minds.) That happens for every kind of institution, not only religious. Violent sports fans are a very explicit example.
tdkl 12y ago
There are catholics who don't conform with everything the Catholic Church says ? I'm shocked.

I thought the Catholic church was ok with evolution, the big bang theory, etc.

by ylem 12y ago

I thought the Catholic church was ok with evolution, the big bang theory, etc.

acqq 12y ago

From the article: "When I again pointed out that John Paul accepted evolution—and he certainly wasn’t an atheist—the student countered that Catholics aren’t Christians. Several simply let me know they will be praying for me and praying hard. One student explained that as a devout Catholic he had no choice but to reject evolution. He accused me of fabricating the pope’s statements. When I explained that he could go to the Vatican website for verification or call the Vatican to talk to a scientist, he insisted that there was no such information available from the Vatican. He then pointed his finger at me and said the only way he would believe me is if Pope John Paul II came to my class to confirm these quotes face-to-face. The student then stomped out, again slamming the auditorium door behind him." From the Pope's mouth (2007): http://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/speeches/2007/july/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20070724_clero-cadore.html http://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/speeches/2007/j... "Currently, I see in Germany, but also in the United States, a somewhat fierce debate raging between so-called "creationism" and evolutionism, presented as though they were mutually exclusive alternatives: those who believe in the Creator would not be able to conceive of evolution, and those who instead support evolution would have to exclude God. This antithesis is absurd because (...) there are so many scientific proofs in favour of evolution which appears to be a reality we can see and which enriches our knowledge of life and being as such."

RogerL 12y ago

It is, but as significant number of people have not gotten the memo, or have been told but refuse to accept it.

marcosdumay 12y ago

It is. But some people will believe in anything they want, and are completely sure that they have institutional support. (And the fact that even the institution is questionable won't even cross their minds.) That happens for every kind of institution, not only religious. Violent sports fans are a very explicit example.

tdkl 12y ago

There are catholics who don't conform with everything the Catholic Church says ? I'm shocked.