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> most Christians [citation needed] Given that the most mainstream support for evolution in Christianity involves the magical hand of the Lord pushing every l

> most Christians [citation needed] Given that the most mainstream support for evolution in Christianity involves the magical hand of the Lord pushing every last selection, I don't know that I'd say they believe in it "just fine," more that they believe in a really bastardized version of it so they stop looking silly.

seanmcdirmid 12y ago
I can't believe I have to argue about this. Ok, citations... The pope believes in evolution: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/10/28/pope-francis-backs-theory-of-evolution-says-god-is-no-wizard/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/10/28... A lot of the Christians in the world are catholic, you know. I guess if you want to be American-centric though, so lets go to Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support_for_evolution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support_for_evolution There is a nice chart there, but... > Molleen Matsumura of the National Center for Science Education found, of Americans in the twelve largest Christian denominations, at least 77% belong to churches that support evolution education (and that at one point, this figure was as high as 89.6%). Really, I'm probably an Atheist also (though I don't identify as one, I just don't believe in God), and the only time I have to deal with creationists is in small town America (evangelicals), but they are not the overwhelming majority of Christians (I guess...I don't really ask). And if they say they believe in evolution, why doubt them? Why accuse them of making twisted rationalizations? It just doesn't make for intelligent debate on either side.
- joshuapants 12y ago
  Thank you for reading my comment. The pope believes in theistic evolution which is essentially incompatible with actual evolution. It's like saying Deepak Chopra is an expert in quantum science. Even better, not all Catholics believe in lock-step with what the pope does (see: Catholics who have gotten abortions, Catholics who are rich, Catholics in favor of the death penalty, etc.). I don't know why you would think I'm being American-centric, my comment was regarding Christians around the globe, not just the ones you've met. There are an awful lot of Christians in non-industrialized countries who don't behave like the ones you've met. > I'm probably an Atheist also Don't try to include me in your fedora-support-group, I'm Jewish. > And if they say they believe in evolution, why doubt them? Why accuse them of making twisted rationalizations? It just doesn't make for intelligent debate on either side. If the Russian government says it has fair elections, why doubt them?
  - dang 12y ago
    Please don't conduct religious flamewars on Hacker News.

seanmcdirmid 12y ago

I can't believe I have to argue about this. Ok, citations... The pope believes in evolution: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/10/28/pope-francis-backs-theory-of-evolution-says-god-is-no-wizard/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/10/28... A lot of the Christians in the world are catholic, you know. I guess if you want to be American-centric though, so lets go to Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support_for_evolution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support_for_evolution There is a nice chart there, but... > Molleen Matsumura of the National Center for Science Education found, of Americans in the twelve largest Christian denominations, at least 77% belong to churches that support evolution education (and that at one point, this figure was as high as 89.6%). Really, I'm probably an Atheist also (though I don't identify as one, I just don't believe in God), and the only time I have to deal with creationists is in small town America (evangelicals), but they are not the overwhelming majority of Christians (I guess...I don't really ask). And if they say they believe in evolution, why doubt them? Why accuse them of making twisted rationalizations? It just doesn't make for intelligent debate on either side.

joshuapants 12y ago
Thank you for reading my comment. The pope believes in theistic evolution which is essentially incompatible with actual evolution. It's like saying Deepak Chopra is an expert in quantum science. Even better, not all Catholics believe in lock-step with what the pope does (see: Catholics who have gotten abortions, Catholics who are rich, Catholics in favor of the death penalty, etc.). I don't know why you would think I'm being American-centric, my comment was regarding Christians around the globe, not just the ones you've met. There are an awful lot of Christians in non-industrialized countries who don't behave like the ones you've met. > I'm probably an Atheist also Don't try to include me in your fedora-support-group, I'm Jewish. > And if they say they believe in evolution, why doubt them? Why accuse them of making twisted rationalizations? It just doesn't make for intelligent debate on either side. If the Russian government says it has fair elections, why doubt them?
- dang 12y ago
  Please don't conduct religious flamewars on Hacker News.