That's basically the sort of thing I was getting at: that motives are by no means straightforwardly rational among humans, let alone aliens. Your point about e

That's basically the sort of thing I was getting at: that motives are by no means straightforwardly rational among humans, let alone aliens. Your point about extremely long-sighted competition is interesting though, and might be a rational motive if the universe were seen as fundamentally zero-sum. On anthropic bias: look up how many times we almost had a nuclear war. Makes me wonder about quantum immortality. Maybe we're just in the universe where we didn't incinerate ourselves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortalit...