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seeing "1931" in there is so depressing. I realise we've made progress since then, but that still isn't very far on a "cultural mentality" scale

by rtpg 12y ago

spoiler 12y ago
I was convinced it was a typo before I looked it up. It's so horrendous what we did (and still do) to eachother.
mathattack 12y ago
Indeed - we live in a sanitized world thinking that civil rights happened with the civil war. I'm ashamed to even look at these pics.
- kzrdude 12y ago
  Surely people know the civil rights movement, 50 years ago?
  - rtpg 12y ago
    In school it's summarised as "Rosa Parks sat in a white person's bus spot, MLK was shot, and the Civil Rights Act was signed". Really no talk of the lynching beforehand (or anything else in the systematic oppression of blacks).
  - mathattack 12y ago
    For the people who think of REM as Old Fogey Music, the Civil Rights Movement is a foreign to them as the roaring 20s liberation was to us.
e12e 12y ago
I'd thought I'd just point to: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/02/10/us/map-of-73-years-of-lynching.html http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/02/10/us/map-of-73-y... but along the way I also found: "Researchers said they determined that 3,959 black people were killed in “racial terror lynchings” in a dozen Southern states between 1877 and 1950." (My emphasis) http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/02/10/even-more-black-people-were-lynched-in-the-u-s-than-previously-thought-study-finds/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/02/10...
fit2rule 12y ago
Australia, 1967. Aborigines are finally recognized as persons and granted rights under the Constitution. Up until then, they were to be treated as 'native fauna' - i.e. animals. http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/history/aboriginal-history-timeline-1900-1969 http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/history/ab...
- Potando 12y ago
  It seems clear cut now when we grow up being told "everyone is equal", but that's because we have the luxury of seeing all moderns humans as a single species with no close living relatives. How would we classify Neanderthals if we found them alive today? How far removed from "our own race" do you have to go before something isn't a human? How about someone with a different number of chromosomes such as a Down's syndrome patient? I think the real problem isn't classifying animals - aborigines really do have a different genetic history from every other race. It's that we somehow equate "not properly human" with "deserves to be abused". Until we can escape from that mentality, we're really no better than these zoo keepers. We've just moved the threshold a bit.
- xtrumanx 12y ago
  I've heard of the forced removal of children from their families but this timeline paints a really dark picture for me of Australia's history. Makes early 20th century Australia seems comparable if not worse than apartheid South Africa.
  - fit2rule 12y ago
    Its a dirty little secret, but Australia is still a very racist and intolerant place. Basically, Australia got away with its own "slow and steady" apartheid - a true travesty, to this day, and which still causes untold pain and suffering to a portion of its population. Alas, this is the price paid by generations for the luxury most Australians enjoy today. As an ex-pat, I hope to see things change, but I'm very much afraid that the more things get swept under the rug the more they stay the same.

seeing "1931" in there is so depressing. I realise we've made progress since then, but that still isn't very far on a "cultural mentality" scale

by rtpg 12y ago

seeing "1931" in there is so depressing. I realise we've made progress since then, but that still isn't very far on a "cultural mentality" scale

spoiler 12y ago

I was convinced it was a typo before I looked it up. It's so horrendous what we did (and still do) to eachother.

mathattack 12y ago

Indeed - we live in a sanitized world thinking that civil rights happened with the civil war. I'm ashamed to even look at these pics.

kzrdude 12y ago
Surely people know the civil rights movement, 50 years ago?
- rtpg 12y ago
  In school it's summarised as "Rosa Parks sat in a white person's bus spot, MLK was shot, and the Civil Rights Act was signed". Really no talk of the lynching beforehand (or anything else in the systematic oppression of blacks).
- mathattack 12y ago
  For the people who think of REM as Old Fogey Music, the Civil Rights Movement is a foreign to them as the roaring 20s liberation was to us.

e12e 12y ago

I'd thought I'd just point to: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/02/10/us/map-of-73-years-of-lynching.html http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/02/10/us/map-of-73-y... but along the way I also found: "Researchers said they determined that 3,959 black people were killed in “racial terror lynchings” in a dozen Southern states between 1877 and 1950." (My emphasis) http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/02/10/even-more-black-people-were-lynched-in-the-u-s-than-previously-thought-study-finds/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/02/10...

fit2rule 12y ago

Australia, 1967. Aborigines are finally recognized as persons and granted rights under the Constitution. Up until then, they were to be treated as 'native fauna' - i.e. animals. http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/history/aboriginal-history-timeline-1900-1969 http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/history/ab...

Potando 12y ago
It seems clear cut now when we grow up being told "everyone is equal", but that's because we have the luxury of seeing all moderns humans as a single species with no close living relatives. How would we classify Neanderthals if we found them alive today? How far removed from "our own race" do you have to go before something isn't a human? How about someone with a different number of chromosomes such as a Down's syndrome patient? I think the real problem isn't classifying animals - aborigines really do have a different genetic history from every other race. It's that we somehow equate "not properly human" with "deserves to be abused". Until we can escape from that mentality, we're really no better than these zoo keepers. We've just moved the threshold a bit.
xtrumanx 12y ago
I've heard of the forced removal of children from their families but this timeline paints a really dark picture for me of Australia's history. Makes early 20th century Australia seems comparable if not worse than apartheid South Africa.
- fit2rule 12y ago
  Its a dirty little secret, but Australia is still a very racist and intolerant place. Basically, Australia got away with its own "slow and steady" apartheid - a true travesty, to this day, and which still causes untold pain and suffering to a portion of its population. Alas, this is the price paid by generations for the luxury most Australians enjoy today. As an ex-pat, I hope to see things change, but I'm very much afraid that the more things get swept under the rug the more they stay the same.