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Contact Akamai who recently bought the DDOS mitigation service Prolexic. They may be able to mitigate the attack and save you bandwidth costs. Alternatively,

Contact Akamai who recently bought the DDOS mitigation service Prolexic. They may be able to mitigate the attack and save you bandwidth costs. Alternatively, call CloudFlare. Don't just absorb this through Amazon.

moe 12y ago
Don't call Akamai. Never call Akamai. They are horrible. Try Incapsula, GigENet, Blacklotus, Cloudflare first.
- falconed 12y ago
  Can you elaborate on why you think Akamai is horrible?
  - moe 12y ago
    I've dealt with them in their CDN role on multiple occasions. They're the most abhorrent combination of incompetence and arrogance that I've ever met in the tech industry. They're the Oracle of the network world. Just don't waste your time on them. There's plenty better and cheaper CDNs nowadays. Leave Akamai to the Governments and MegaCorps, they deserve each other.
    - stevejones 12y ago
      This is the exact opposite of my interactions with Akamai.
      - toomuchtodo 12y ago
        My experience with them was exactly the same as OP. Wanted us to bring buckets of cash for 10-100TB of bandwidth. Went with CacheFly, super satisfied.
        e12e 12y ago
        Could you define buckets of cash? On the low end, one gets 30TB/month (1gbps uplink, 200mbs guaranteed) included for ~60 Euro a month, or 100TB for ~160 Euro (for a single server, outbound) at Hetzner: https://www.hetzner.de/gb/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex60 https://www.hetzner.de/gb/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex60 Such a single server, isn't the same as a CDN of course, just curious what you consider "buckets of cash". I see cachefly asks for 400 USD for 2/TB a month, for comparison.
    - sounds 12y ago
      I can echo your sentiment.
    - the_cat_kittles 12y ago
      I am right there with you
    - TheGrassyKnoll 12y ago
      > "...They're the Oracle of the network..." That's a hilarious indictment of Akamai. lol... Its gotta be DEFCON 5 in their PR dept.
    - jfindley 12y ago
      From my experience, this is confusing the issue - the OP was talking about using their DDoS filtering service, not their CDN. This is done by Prolexic - who despite being acquired by Akamai, still seems to function fairly independently. I've no idea what the CDN team are like, but it's not really fair to say don't use product X from company Y, because product Z sucks. We've tried a number of DDoS filtering services, and Proxleic/Akamai has been the most professional and effective so far. They're also the most expensive, by a fair bit, but you get what you pay for I guess.
- earless1 12y ago
  Anyone who has ever dealt with Akimai knows that you have to have your Buckets O' cash ready. Cloudflare would probably be the best bang for the buck.
  - Dbrinkly 12y ago
    Actually the Prolexic product is one of the most innovative and effective one we've seen to date. DDoS attacks are not a commodity issue, you have to pay to play..Not sure how that makes Akamai horrible..
    - greedoshotlast 12y ago
      I can confirm that Akamai is a pain to deal with. Defense.Net as well. Cloudflare is what I would chose but they are siding with the Chinese gov't at this point.
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      - kevcampb 12y ago
        Not sure what you're basing that statement on. Cloudflare very recently gave support to various parties involed in the pro-democracy movement in Hong Kong. They claimed to have weathered the largest DDoS in history in the process.
      - sjwright 12y ago
        Cloudflare didn't side with the Chinese govt. They sided against a group that was abusing their infrastructure.
- snowwrestler 12y ago
  Agreed. Can't understand why I never see DosArrest on these lists though. They've been doing DDOS protection for a while and are good at it AFAIK. That said, I have no idea if they are interested in taking on the Chinese government.
- lazylizard 12y ago
  isit possible to combine them? like, would my domain actually resolve if i change my name servers to cloudflare's, then cname it to incapsula? i'm just curious...
qeorge 12y ago
CloudFlare is probably not a good choice. They recently blocked access to a similar service, Lantern, per the linked WSJ article. "CloudFlare, which offers content-delivery network services, said last week it cut off Lantern’s use of the service, saying it was unauthorized. “We don’t do anything to thwart the content restrictions in China or other countries,” said Matthew Prince, chief executive of CloudFlare. “We’re a tech company and we comply with the law.”" http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-cloud-providers-face-backlash-from-chinas-censors-1426541126 http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-cloud-providers-face-backlas... I'm not very impressed. Maybe someone from CloudFlare is around to defend that position further.
- pktgen 12y ago
  LOL. Booters (that carry out DDoS attacks which are illegal in CloudFlare's own country)? No problem for CloudFlare. Trying to circumvent Chinese content restrictions? Nope, that's unauthorized!
  - throwaway20434 12y ago
    Yep, it's hilarious. Cue Mr. Prince to come in here and give a half-assed explanation as to why it's not actually a contradiction, even though it clearly is.
- diminoten 12y ago
  Forgive my outburst, and maybe this sentiment won't be well received given the context, but I just find it to be downright unpatriotic for a US company like CloudFlare to stand there saying things like what Matt Prince says in your quote, when someone comes under attack by an opposing nation state. Again, I realize this place isn't exactly a bastion for this kind of sentiment, but have some thought for freedom here, CloudFlare. The US may suck at helping a lot of the time, but if you've got a group of folks trying to deliver some good ol' freedom to a country like this, and that country is trying to shut them up, maybe put out a helping hand, or at least don't shut off service. Come on...
  - AYBABTME 12y ago
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twunde 12y ago
I've heard very good things about Prolexic while interviewing
scott2449 12y ago
For the record WSJ does use Akamai already for many of it's static resources. These are mostly requests for things that can not be cached already in some way. (I'm sure the crew is looking for some additional ways now =) Source: I used to work on WSJ and now within a different division of Dow Jones.

moe 12y ago

Don't call Akamai. Never call Akamai. They are horrible. Try Incapsula, GigENet, Blacklotus, Cloudflare first.

falconed 12y ago
Can you elaborate on why you think Akamai is horrible?
- moe 12y ago
  I've dealt with them in their CDN role on multiple occasions. They're the most abhorrent combination of incompetence and arrogance that I've ever met in the tech industry. They're the Oracle of the network world. Just don't waste your time on them. There's plenty better and cheaper CDNs nowadays. Leave Akamai to the Governments and MegaCorps, they deserve each other.
  - stevejones 12y ago
    This is the exact opposite of my interactions with Akamai.
    - toomuchtodo 12y ago
      My experience with them was exactly the same as OP. Wanted us to bring buckets of cash for 10-100TB of bandwidth. Went with CacheFly, super satisfied.
      - e12e 12y ago
        Could you define buckets of cash? On the low end, one gets 30TB/month (1gbps uplink, 200mbs guaranteed) included for ~60 Euro a month, or 100TB for ~160 Euro (for a single server, outbound) at Hetzner: https://www.hetzner.de/gb/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex60 https://www.hetzner.de/gb/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex60 Such a single server, isn't the same as a CDN of course, just curious what you consider "buckets of cash". I see cachefly asks for 400 USD for 2/TB a month, for comparison.
  - sounds 12y ago
    I can echo your sentiment.
  - the_cat_kittles 12y ago
    I am right there with you
  - TheGrassyKnoll 12y ago
    > "...They're the Oracle of the network..." That's a hilarious indictment of Akamai. lol... Its gotta be DEFCON 5 in their PR dept.
  - jfindley 12y ago
    From my experience, this is confusing the issue - the OP was talking about using their DDoS filtering service, not their CDN. This is done by Prolexic - who despite being acquired by Akamai, still seems to function fairly independently. I've no idea what the CDN team are like, but it's not really fair to say don't use product X from company Y, because product Z sucks. We've tried a number of DDoS filtering services, and Proxleic/Akamai has been the most professional and effective so far. They're also the most expensive, by a fair bit, but you get what you pay for I guess.
earless1 12y ago
Anyone who has ever dealt with Akimai knows that you have to have your Buckets O' cash ready. Cloudflare would probably be the best bang for the buck.
- Dbrinkly 12y ago
  Actually the Prolexic product is one of the most innovative and effective one we've seen to date. DDoS attacks are not a commodity issue, you have to pay to play..Not sure how that makes Akamai horrible..
  - greedoshotlast 12y ago
    I can confirm that Akamai is a pain to deal with. Defense.Net as well. Cloudflare is what I would chose but they are siding with the Chinese gov't at this point.
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    - kevcampb 12y ago
      Not sure what you're basing that statement on. Cloudflare very recently gave support to various parties involed in the pro-democracy movement in Hong Kong. They claimed to have weathered the largest DDoS in history in the process.
    - sjwright 12y ago
      Cloudflare didn't side with the Chinese govt. They sided against a group that was abusing their infrastructure.
snowwrestler 12y ago
Agreed. Can't understand why I never see DosArrest on these lists though. They've been doing DDOS protection for a while and are good at it AFAIK. That said, I have no idea if they are interested in taking on the Chinese government.
lazylizard 12y ago
isit possible to combine them? like, would my domain actually resolve if i change my name servers to cloudflare's, then cname it to incapsula? i'm just curious...

qeorge 12y ago

CloudFlare is probably not a good choice. They recently blocked access to a similar service, Lantern, per the linked WSJ article. "CloudFlare, which offers content-delivery network services, said last week it cut off Lantern’s use of the service, saying it was unauthorized. “We don’t do anything to thwart the content restrictions in China or other countries,” said Matthew Prince, chief executive of CloudFlare. “We’re a tech company and we comply with the law.”" http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-cloud-providers-face-backlash-from-chinas-censors-1426541126 http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-cloud-providers-face-backlas... I'm not very impressed. Maybe someone from CloudFlare is around to defend that position further.

pktgen 12y ago
LOL. Booters (that carry out DDoS attacks which are illegal in CloudFlare's own country)? No problem for CloudFlare. Trying to circumvent Chinese content restrictions? Nope, that's unauthorized!
- throwaway20434 12y ago
  Yep, it's hilarious. Cue Mr. Prince to come in here and give a half-assed explanation as to why it's not actually a contradiction, even though it clearly is.
diminoten 12y ago
Forgive my outburst, and maybe this sentiment won't be well received given the context, but I just find it to be downright unpatriotic for a US company like CloudFlare to stand there saying things like what Matt Prince says in your quote, when someone comes under attack by an opposing nation state. Again, I realize this place isn't exactly a bastion for this kind of sentiment, but have some thought for freedom here, CloudFlare. The US may suck at helping a lot of the time, but if you've got a group of folks trying to deliver some good ol' freedom to a country like this, and that country is trying to shut them up, maybe put out a helping hand, or at least don't shut off service. Come on...
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twunde 12y ago

I've heard very good things about Prolexic while interviewing

scott2449 12y ago

For the record WSJ does use Akamai already for many of it's static resources. These are mostly requests for things that can not be cached already in some way. (I'm sure the crew is looking for some additional ways now =) Source: I used to work on WSJ and now within a different division of Dow Jones.