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I've read this petition three times and I still have no idea what happened. Also, what in the holy fuck is the author thinking giving everyone enough informatio
by jsmthrowaway 12y ago
I've read this petition three times and I still have no idea what happened. Also, what in the holy fuck is the author thinking giving everyone enough information to find the "bad guy" in her story (I knew who she was talking about even without it) but keeping the identity of the person we're allegedly helping obscured?
The difference between me and whoever the person advocating for this guy is, is that I know how to use PACER and am willing to pay to investigate claims like this. Honestly, I wanted to read the indictment because the horribly-written petition left me confused, but indeed, the petition leaves out quite a bit of the story. That includes the guy signing back up for Hacker Dojo under a false name after being banned, his grand total of one day being a member of Hacker Dojo, and completely omitting the attorney that he retained privately (and who quit not long after due to a "breakdown of communication"; puts perspective on raising a legal defense).
By the indictment, which went before a grand jury, by the way, it sounds like he signed up as "Ad Min," got banned, signed up as "Dallas Smith," got banned again (probably), then threw a hissy a month or so later and packeted Hacker Dojo. Poor guy indeed. Who attacks Hacker Dojo?
5:14-cr-00114-EJD, United States of America v. Jason David Miller.
Grand Jury Indictment: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6121606/hackerdojo/indictment.pdf https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6121606/hackerdojo/indic...
Order to Seal (since lifted): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6121606/hackerdojo/seal.pdf https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6121606/hackerdojo/seal....
Continuance so Miller can retain counsel: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6121606/hackerdojo/subin.pdf https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6121606/hackerdojo/subin...
Status hearing where Miller's attorney subs in: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6121606/hackerdojo/counsel.pdf https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6121606/hackerdojo/couns...
Withdrawal of Miller's attorney ten days later: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6121606/hackerdojo/withdrawal.pdf https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6121606/hackerdojo/withd...
Full history: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6121606/hackerdojo/history.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6121606/hackerdojo/histo...
This is all public information. I paid $2.60 to look it up, and you can too -- sign up for PACER. Federal court is really simple if you know how to look, it's the state courts that tend to be harder and require a physical presence.
EDIT: I edited out my speculation once I had the indictment, and extend apologies to the commenters who wanted to engage it.
- jjoonathan 12y ago> Keep your pranks on the right side of legal, or get burned. Understand the CFAA and when you are in violation. It's as simple as that. If it's so simple then why do you have a conviction? To me, your comment reads like "I didn't get fair treatment so neither should he!" That's not how we move forward.
- hurin 12y ago> Keep your pranks on the right side of legal, or get burned. Understand the CFAA and when you are in violation. Because the problem is clearly the "evil hacker jason" and not the ridiculousness of the laws in which severity of punishment is entirely inconsistent with any tangible damages? I think people forget that it's their tax-payer money being used to ruin's someone else's life.
- jsmthrowaway 12y agoWould you say the same thing after reading the indictment? Just curious.
- hurin 12y agoIs there something in the indictment that you find to be in direct contradiction to the petition? I couldn't find it - of course the Brian half of the story is missing here.
- MichaelGG 12y agoThe petition says that denial of service attacks were performed against his email account. The indictment says he was banned. Sounds like some serious spin.
- takeda 12y agoThere were no pranks but simply DDoS for being banned, Brian did not DDoS Jason's email but banned him for breaking the rules. Pretty much the only truth in that petition is that Jason is in deep sh*t.
- 12y ago