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The author of that so-called "cancer survival rates" BS is Betsy McCaughey, the woman who invented the "death panels" nonsense. Here's link to webpage with vid

by Adam503 17y ago

The author of that so-called "cancer survival rates" BS is Betsy McCaughey, the woman who invented the "death panels" nonsense. Here's link to webpage with video of John Stewart unloading on Betsy McCaughey for 2 entire segments of the Daily Show because of the "death panels" http://www.mediaite.com/tv/finally-jon-stewart-gives-betsy-mccaughey-a-polite-but-devastating-smackdown-on-the-daily-show/ http://www.mediaite.com/tv/finally-jon-stewart-gives-betsy-m...

pbhjpbhj 17y ago
OK, we heard you already - you don't need to spam the comments with the same thing quite so many times. I'm in the UK and this is the first I heard about "death panels". I looked at the top listing in the NYT and on ABC, as returned by Google, in order to get a definition. Surely any country with limited healthcare resources requires someone (maybe a panel) to decide where to restrict application of resources. In many cases this failure to provide infinite resources to any health problem will result in premature death. So you could call the panels deciding on restricting care "death panels". There's nothing controversial about that, is there. We have such panels in the UK, the only controversial part is that location within the UK gets factored in ("postcode lottery") when we are supposed to have a "national health service". Some drugs and treatments are too expensive for the public purse.
- Adam503 17y ago
  If you are so out of the loop of American politics that you were not aware about the whole "death panels" uproar, you really aren't aren't in the loop enough to be discussing the rest of this subject matter on this thread either "Palin: Obama's "Death Panel" Could Kill My Down Syndrome Baby In a new posting on her Facebook account, former Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) made a dire statement about health care reform -- that it could result in an Obama-created "death panel" killing her infant son with Down Syndrome: The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's "death panel" so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their "level of productivity in society," whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil...." http://tinyurl.com/lujt9h http://tinyurl.com/lujt9h pbhjpbhj, the UK most certainly DOES NOT have what Betsy McCaughey and Sarah Palin defined as a "death panel"
anamax 17y ago
Not so fast. She was quoting Lancet. Moreover, she's not the only source. http://papers.nber.org/papers/w15213#fromrss http://papers.nber.org/papers/w15213#fromrss

by Adam503 17y ago

pbhjpbhj 17y ago

OK, we heard you already - you don't need to spam the comments with the same thing quite so many times. I'm in the UK and this is the first I heard about "death panels". I looked at the top listing in the NYT and on ABC, as returned by Google, in order to get a definition. Surely any country with limited healthcare resources requires someone (maybe a panel) to decide where to restrict application of resources. In many cases this failure to provide infinite resources to any health problem will result in premature death. So you could call the panels deciding on restricting care "death panels". There's nothing controversial about that, is there. We have such panels in the UK, the only controversial part is that location within the UK gets factored in ("postcode lottery") when we are supposed to have a "national health service". Some drugs and treatments are too expensive for the public purse.

Adam503 17y ago
If you are so out of the loop of American politics that you were not aware about the whole "death panels" uproar, you really aren't aren't in the loop enough to be discussing the rest of this subject matter on this thread either "Palin: Obama's "Death Panel" Could Kill My Down Syndrome Baby In a new posting on her Facebook account, former Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) made a dire statement about health care reform -- that it could result in an Obama-created "death panel" killing her infant son with Down Syndrome: The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's "death panel" so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their "level of productivity in society," whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil...." http://tinyurl.com/lujt9h http://tinyurl.com/lujt9h pbhjpbhj, the UK most certainly DOES NOT have what Betsy McCaughey and Sarah Palin defined as a "death panel"

anamax 17y ago

Not so fast. She was quoting Lancet. Moreover, she's not the only source. http://papers.nber.org/papers/w15213#fromrss http://papers.nber.org/papers/w15213#fromrss