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I am not too happy about that. HP already has USB charger for laptop, and it had bunch of problems, including fire hazard. That was just ARM chromebook, not sur

by jkot 12y ago

I am not too happy about that. HP already has USB charger for laptop, and it had bunch of problems, including fire hazard. That was just ARM chromebook, not sure how it will on 'full' mac. EDIT: there are physical limitations how electric current is transferred. USB contacts do not have good shape and will probably deteriorate more quickly.

headShrinker 12y ago
In the old days, HP had a high standard of quality. More recently, almost coinciding with the introduction of inkjet printers, HP quality standards have slipped to a new dismal low. I'm not surprised to hear of fires.
- jkot 12y ago
  USB connector was not simply designed for 10 amps or how much they push through it.
  - bri3d 12y ago
    USB-C has a new connector and specifies voltages up to 20V, which will cut the amperage vs. old 5V USB chargers by a factor of four.
  - sfeng 12y ago
    If they use the current 45 watt charger power, at the maximum 20V allowed by USB-C, you're looking at about 2.6 amps.
- mark_l_watson 12y ago
  I just purchased a little HP 11" Stream, and the build quality is pretty good - I was pleasantly surprised, especially for a $199 laptop that includes $125 in free software coupons. (Pro-tip: if you need a Windows laptop, but it directly from Microsoft so you don't get any crap-ware loaded on it.) That said, I am kind of looking forward to my (about) 4 year old MacBook Air eventually dying and then I will buy the new model that was announced today :-) MacBooks are beautiful.
- chx 12y ago
  My first inkjet was one of DeskJet 500 series in the early nineties. And HP had inkjets since 1984 apparently. That's "more recently" for you? You are right about HP standards slipping but coincidencing with inkjet printers they are not :)
organsnyder 12y ago
Not sure how USB is a factor in that. Plenty of old-style chargers have had issues (including fire hazards) over the years as well.
- mathgeek 12y ago
  Including Apple chargers, so it's really nothing new.
Animats 12y ago
I'm surprised it doesn't support wireless charging. Now that Starbucks does, I'd expect all new laptop designs to include Starbucks compatibility.
- jkot 12y ago
  Starbucks and Ikea: the leading computer innovators :-)
  - Animats 12y ago
    Why not? Starbucks, Ikea, and Apple all target the same demographic.
Dylan16807 12y ago
I wouldn't be surprised if this drew fewer amps than an iPad, because of voltage. But I've never had electrical contacts on a charger wear out in the first place, so even if it goes faster it might never matter.
higherpurpose 12y ago
That happened with the old USB connector, which can't support too much power going through it. USB-C can support a lot more.
- lsaferite 12y ago
  20v @ 5A to be precise

by jkot 12y ago

headShrinker 12y ago

In the old days, HP had a high standard of quality. More recently, almost coinciding with the introduction of inkjet printers, HP quality standards have slipped to a new dismal low. I'm not surprised to hear of fires.

jkot 12y ago
USB connector was not simply designed for 10 amps or how much they push through it.
- bri3d 12y ago
  USB-C has a new connector and specifies voltages up to 20V, which will cut the amperage vs. old 5V USB chargers by a factor of four.
- sfeng 12y ago
  If they use the current 45 watt charger power, at the maximum 20V allowed by USB-C, you're looking at about 2.6 amps.
mark_l_watson 12y ago
I just purchased a little HP 11" Stream, and the build quality is pretty good - I was pleasantly surprised, especially for a $199 laptop that includes $125 in free software coupons. (Pro-tip: if you need a Windows laptop, but it directly from Microsoft so you don't get any crap-ware loaded on it.) That said, I am kind of looking forward to my (about) 4 year old MacBook Air eventually dying and then I will buy the new model that was announced today :-) MacBooks are beautiful.
chx 12y ago
My first inkjet was one of DeskJet 500 series in the early nineties. And HP had inkjets since 1984 apparently. That's "more recently" for you? You are right about HP standards slipping but coincidencing with inkjet printers they are not :)

organsnyder 12y ago

Not sure how USB is a factor in that. Plenty of old-style chargers have had issues (including fire hazards) over the years as well.

mathgeek 12y ago
Including Apple chargers, so it's really nothing new.

Animats 12y ago

I'm surprised it doesn't support wireless charging. Now that Starbucks does, I'd expect all new laptop designs to include Starbucks compatibility.

jkot 12y ago
Starbucks and Ikea: the leading computer innovators :-)
- Animats 12y ago
  Why not? Starbucks, Ikea, and Apple all target the same demographic.

Dylan16807 12y ago

I wouldn't be surprised if this drew fewer amps than an iPad, because of voltage. But I've never had electrical contacts on a charger wear out in the first place, so even if it goes faster it might never matter.

higherpurpose 12y ago

That happened with the old USB connector, which can't support too much power going through it. USB-C can support a lot more.

lsaferite 12y ago
20v @ 5A to be precise