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> " Women would highlight the cooperative nature of their work, while men would highlight that they did it all themselves. In my experience the latter is typica

> " Women would highlight the cooperative nature of their work, while men would highlight that they did it all themselves. In my experience the latter is typically more honest, especially if you actually were working on a team or on a team-oriented college project. Did you mean to say the former was more honest, i.e. that saying “we did X” is more honest than “I did X?"

api 12y ago
Yes. Edited. It depends on the context of course. If it was your project alone, then you did it. If others contributed non-trivial amounts, it was a team effort. I noted that the males tended to bury that, while the females tended to highlight it.
- moron4hire 12y ago
  I really want to hear what the individual contributed, though, and actually couldn't care less what their team did as a whole. I've heard way too many "we"s that were actually "they"s, while the subject was present, but not actually contributing that much. It's really easy for a bad developer to hide in a large team. EDIT: and it's also easy for a good developer to get quagmired in a bad team! Just because the project as a whole didn't do much doesn't mean the individual is bad. So I still really only want to hear about the individual efforts.
  - api 12y ago
    You're missing one final problem: it's easy for a bad developer to talk themselves up.
    - moron4hire 12y ago
      This would be why I spend almost no effort on the interview process. I put people to work right away to force them to prove whether or not they can do the job. Well, I suppose they could be subcontracting it out, but at that point, I don't care. The work is getting done and at a price I can manage.
- mahyarm 12y ago
  Well I think the more honest part is I myself worked on part X and we the team created product Y made out these multiple parts. How big of a part you had does matter. For example, I made the iOS UI part of this text chat app, and my team members created data models and networking code that I used to make the UI part. Another team member made the android part using the cross platform code and a bunch of others made the server part and so on. Together we made a text chat app pair.

api 12y ago

Yes. Edited. It depends on the context of course. If it was your project alone, then you did it. If others contributed non-trivial amounts, it was a team effort. I noted that the males tended to bury that, while the females tended to highlight it.

moron4hire 12y ago
I really want to hear what the individual contributed, though, and actually couldn't care less what their team did as a whole. I've heard way too many "we"s that were actually "they"s, while the subject was present, but not actually contributing that much. It's really easy for a bad developer to hide in a large team. EDIT: and it's also easy for a good developer to get quagmired in a bad team! Just because the project as a whole didn't do much doesn't mean the individual is bad. So I still really only want to hear about the individual efforts.
- api 12y ago
  You're missing one final problem: it's easy for a bad developer to talk themselves up.
  - moron4hire 12y ago
    This would be why I spend almost no effort on the interview process. I put people to work right away to force them to prove whether or not they can do the job. Well, I suppose they could be subcontracting it out, but at that point, I don't care. The work is getting done and at a price I can manage.
mahyarm 12y ago
Well I think the more honest part is I myself worked on part X and we the team created product Y made out these multiple parts. How big of a part you had does matter. For example, I made the iOS UI part of this text chat app, and my team members created data models and networking code that I used to make the UI part. Another team member made the android part using the cross platform code and a bunch of others made the server part and so on. Together we made a text chat app pair.