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well i've started marking ebay, linkedin and google+ stuff as spam. i'm sure somebody else did amazon the same favour... so... sorry? :)

npsimons 12y ago
Don't do this. Seriously, don't. It's one thing if you never asked to get additional emails or you can't opt out, but if you signed up for it, at least put in the same amount of effort to get out of it first. If that fails, sure, then start marking as spam. Otherwise, you're feeding false positives into the system, thereby degrading it on purpose.
- marcosdumay 12y ago
  Most Amazon email is spam. They send tons of promotional email to everybody that buys something there, with not even an opt-out option, and after you receive the emails, go to the opt-out link and uncheck it, they create new categories with you signed in by default. The GP is correct in marking amazon emails as spam, and I'll ask anybody that's considering stopping to keep marking it. That said, this is no excuse for Google to mark their transactional emails as spam for people that clearly want to receive them. Google is just being lazy and doing a bad job. Even Yahoo gets that right, Google can do it too.
  - thaumasiotes 12y ago
    Speaking as a person who frequently buys from Amazon, I've never experienced this. (No, it's not that promotional email from Amazon is going into my spam folder. I have to check my spam folder semi-regularly because gmail keeps flagging perfectly legitimate email as spam.) The mail I get from Amazon is order confirmations and a newsletter that I specifically signed up for. What's this promotional email that you're talking about?
    - throwawayaway 12y ago
      http://imgur.com/yqsYyPY http://imgur.com/yqsYyPY of the 64 emails I have from them 50 are spam of this nature.
      - Tiksi 12y ago
        And if you open any of them, there is a convenient link to unsubscribe from them: http://paste.click/fOAtyL http://paste.click/fOAtyL
        throwawayaway 12y ago
        Are you saying they are opt out? because I think that is what you are saying? Way to miss the point.
        Tiksi 12y ago
        No I'm saying you opted in, and can now opt back out.
        throwawayaway 12y ago
        didn't!
      - thaumasiotes 12y ago
        I can't help but notice that all of those come from amazon.co.uk. As evidence-free speculation, perhaps there's a problem at a lower level than "Amazon the company". This sort of thing would certainly help explain why some people are extremely upset about spam from "Amazon" and other people are taking the position "you're crazy".
      - npsimons 12y ago
        You signed up to be their customer, and you can turn these off. That they do this by default isn't ideal, but it's not spam - you have a business relationship with them.
  - npsimons 12y ago
    I call bullshit. I'm a very regular Amazon customer, and I never ever receive anything but order and shipping confirmations from them (and the occasional interview offer). Can't remember if I did anything special (like uncheck a few boxes), but I'm very sure it's possible to not be spammed by them as my inbox is proof.
- throwawayaway 12y ago
  it should be opt in instead of opt out then shouldn't it? maybe you should be directing your passion at those who feel opt out is appropriate.
  - npsimons 12y ago
    And that's why I said: "but if you signed up for it, at least put in the same amount of effort to get out of it first." If you signed up, then you opted in. Don't be lazy and mark things you signed up for as spam. I'm not understanding how people get email from Amazon that aren't customers, and how customers can't turn off everything but confirmations, which I know is possible, because I have.
    - throwawayaway 12y ago
      > how customers can't turn off everything but confirmations I'm a customer, I consider that opt out. You don't? I signed up for amazon, not their bullshit emails. That you consider the situation opt in shows they have you trained well.
      - npsimons 12y ago
        Nice, ad hom, and I can't downvote your insulting comment! How about this: are you too lazy to uncheck a few check boxes? Because that's all it takes, and then you'll only get order and shipping confirmations.
        throwawayaway 12y ago
        You shouldn't be insulted, I said you were trained well. Yes, I am too lazy to opt out of spam that should be opt in. Lazy like a fox.

npsimons 12y ago

Don't do this. Seriously, don't. It's one thing if you never asked to get additional emails or you can't opt out, but if you signed up for it, at least put in the same amount of effort to get out of it first. If that fails, sure, then start marking as spam. Otherwise, you're feeding false positives into the system, thereby degrading it on purpose.

marcosdumay 12y ago
Most Amazon email is spam. They send tons of promotional email to everybody that buys something there, with not even an opt-out option, and after you receive the emails, go to the opt-out link and uncheck it, they create new categories with you signed in by default. The GP is correct in marking amazon emails as spam, and I'll ask anybody that's considering stopping to keep marking it. That said, this is no excuse for Google to mark their transactional emails as spam for people that clearly want to receive them. Google is just being lazy and doing a bad job. Even Yahoo gets that right, Google can do it too.
- thaumasiotes 12y ago
  Speaking as a person who frequently buys from Amazon, I've never experienced this. (No, it's not that promotional email from Amazon is going into my spam folder. I have to check my spam folder semi-regularly because gmail keeps flagging perfectly legitimate email as spam.) The mail I get from Amazon is order confirmations and a newsletter that I specifically signed up for. What's this promotional email that you're talking about?
  - throwawayaway 12y ago
    http://imgur.com/yqsYyPY http://imgur.com/yqsYyPY of the 64 emails I have from them 50 are spam of this nature.
    - Tiksi 12y ago
      And if you open any of them, there is a convenient link to unsubscribe from them: http://paste.click/fOAtyL http://paste.click/fOAtyL
      - throwawayaway 12y ago
        Are you saying they are opt out? because I think that is what you are saying? Way to miss the point.
        Tiksi 12y ago
        No I'm saying you opted in, and can now opt back out.
        throwawayaway 12y ago
        didn't!
    - thaumasiotes 12y ago
      I can't help but notice that all of those come from amazon.co.uk. As evidence-free speculation, perhaps there's a problem at a lower level than "Amazon the company". This sort of thing would certainly help explain why some people are extremely upset about spam from "Amazon" and other people are taking the position "you're crazy".
    - npsimons 12y ago
      You signed up to be their customer, and you can turn these off. That they do this by default isn't ideal, but it's not spam - you have a business relationship with them.
- npsimons 12y ago
  I call bullshit. I'm a very regular Amazon customer, and I never ever receive anything but order and shipping confirmations from them (and the occasional interview offer). Can't remember if I did anything special (like uncheck a few boxes), but I'm very sure it's possible to not be spammed by them as my inbox is proof.
throwawayaway 12y ago
it should be opt in instead of opt out then shouldn't it? maybe you should be directing your passion at those who feel opt out is appropriate.
- npsimons 12y ago
  And that's why I said: "but if you signed up for it, at least put in the same amount of effort to get out of it first." If you signed up, then you opted in. Don't be lazy and mark things you signed up for as spam. I'm not understanding how people get email from Amazon that aren't customers, and how customers can't turn off everything but confirmations, which I know is possible, because I have.
  - throwawayaway 12y ago
    > how customers can't turn off everything but confirmations I'm a customer, I consider that opt out. You don't? I signed up for amazon, not their bullshit emails. That you consider the situation opt in shows they have you trained well.
    - npsimons 12y ago
      Nice, ad hom, and I can't downvote your insulting comment! How about this: are you too lazy to uncheck a few check boxes? Because that's all it takes, and then you'll only get order and shipping confirmations.
      - throwawayaway 12y ago
        You shouldn't be insulted, I said you were trained well. Yes, I am too lazy to opt out of spam that should be opt in. Lazy like a fox.