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The chemicals modafinil and armodafinil subjectively let me get away with a bit less sleep without the various consequences of caffeine. Used with enough sleep

by Sevzi 12y ago

The chemicals modafinil and armodafinil subjectively let me get away with a bit less sleep without the various consequences of caffeine. Used with enough sleep, they enter the realm of transhuman cognitive enhancer.

shostack 12y ago
Sure, but even with enough sleep, don't they have other side effects? (Seriously asking, never taken them)
- Sevzi 12y ago
  Nope--just try to control your caffeine while on them.
Bjartr 12y ago
I heard about modafinil years ago and have always been fascinated by the idea of it, is it worth trying?
- Sevzi 12y ago
  Yes.
marct 12y ago
I've been trying to source modafinil in Canada. I hope to try an experiment once I acquire some.
- deleted 12y ago
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- eulo_ 12y ago
  I was able to order some from India to Australia with only a credit card, our countries are very similar in terms of customs if you wish to try it I used one of the larger Indian drug sites. Had a friend test it against a local brand and results came back fine.
icelancer 12y ago
I'm in the non-responder camp with those drugs. Unfortunately.
1123581321 12y ago
They let you get away with less sleep in the short term, but your body will pay it back by doing deep sleep instead of healthy cycles. Pardon the extreme laymanism, but mod lets you pull long days in the same way that getting excited does. There's no currently known drug that pushes your need to sleep past the end of your life if you're more than days away from it. I will be interested to see what genetic therapies can accomplish, though.
meowface 12y ago
It certainly varies a lot by person. Modafinil only really works for me if I take it once a week, max twice. Otherwise I seem to build some sort of tolerance. Also, when it wears off I very often get awful tension headaches and "mind fuzz", kind of like from caffeine but much worse. Unlike caffeine though, I can go a good 9 hours feeling energetic and only feel the pain once I get home and am done with the day, which is an advantage I suppose. Interestingly, I also seem to get fairly powerful euphoria for about 2 hours after it kicks in, which to my understanding is unusual. (And yes, I'm sure what I'm taking is really modafinil.) I only take it in "emergencies".
YorkianTones 12y ago
I've tried modafinil (to counteract lethargy from an antidepressant). It's a strong and long-acting stimulant, but for me there were definitely side effects (and stronger ones than from caffeine wearing off) - bruxism, jaw clenching, headaches, tension. I was only on it for a short period before deciding to get off due to side effects and concern about taking it regularly.

by Sevzi 12y ago

shostack 12y ago

Sure, but even with enough sleep, don't they have other side effects? (Seriously asking, never taken them)

Sevzi 12y ago
Nope--just try to control your caffeine while on them.

Bjartr 12y ago

I heard about modafinil years ago and have always been fascinated by the idea of it, is it worth trying?

Sevzi 12y ago
Yes.

marct 12y ago

I've been trying to source modafinil in Canada. I hope to try an experiment once I acquire some.

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eulo_ 12y ago
I was able to order some from India to Australia with only a credit card, our countries are very similar in terms of customs if you wish to try it I used one of the larger Indian drug sites. Had a friend test it against a local brand and results came back fine.

icelancer 12y ago

I'm in the non-responder camp with those drugs. Unfortunately.

1123581321 12y ago

They let you get away with less sleep in the short term, but your body will pay it back by doing deep sleep instead of healthy cycles. Pardon the extreme laymanism, but mod lets you pull long days in the same way that getting excited does. There's no currently known drug that pushes your need to sleep past the end of your life if you're more than days away from it. I will be interested to see what genetic therapies can accomplish, though.

meowface 12y ago

It certainly varies a lot by person. Modafinil only really works for me if I take it once a week, max twice. Otherwise I seem to build some sort of tolerance. Also, when it wears off I very often get awful tension headaches and "mind fuzz", kind of like from caffeine but much worse. Unlike caffeine though, I can go a good 9 hours feeling energetic and only feel the pain once I get home and am done with the day, which is an advantage I suppose. Interestingly, I also seem to get fairly powerful euphoria for about 2 hours after it kicks in, which to my understanding is unusual. (And yes, I'm sure what I'm taking is really modafinil.) I only take it in "emergencies".

YorkianTones 12y ago

I've tried modafinil (to counteract lethargy from an antidepressant). It's a strong and long-acting stimulant, but for me there were definitely side effects (and stronger ones than from caffeine wearing off) - bruxism, jaw clenching, headaches, tension. I was only on it for a short period before deciding to get off due to side effects and concern about taking it regularly.