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EVERYONE does a horrible job recruiting. I think a very low number of companies are doing this correctly. The thing about the process is one bad moment spoils

EVERYONE does a horrible job recruiting. I think a very low number of companies are doing this correctly. The thing about the process is one bad moment spoils the entire process for the candidate. Shallow/No responses, or horrible questions, or something unprofessional being said during the interview. It's not just $AAPL it is everyone, but if you are an interviewer or a recruiter, please fight for the candidates to get good responses and good questions, especially if you fly someone across the globe to awkwardly sit in a room for 6 hours.

UnoriginalGuy 12y ago
I agree that most companies get it wrong, but what is right? It seems like interviewing and recruiting is a field dominated by "sounds right, common sense" styles of thinking (like most HR) where there is no post-mortem of how well a candidate did in the next 6-24 months. Even if you look at most MBA programs, the stuff on recruiting and interviewing aren't as research and evidence based as you would expect, and instead you just get spoon fed a bunch of best practices seemingly out of thin air. I think programmers and technology companies in particular are very trend-following. For example, Microsoft decided to do some out-of-the-box questioning about circle manhole covers and suddenly tons of other companies had to have their own version. Google did CS algorithm questions, so everyone else had to have them also (even for jobs which use high level libraries like Java, C#, PHP, etc).
- seanmcdirmid 12y ago
  They get it wrong because no one knows how to do it right. Actually...evaluating human knowledge and behavior into a bunch of 1 hour interview slots doesn't lead to much accurate information.
  - foobarqux 12y ago
    But no one seems to spend time on trying to figure out how to do it right or even how well the current methods perform.
    - seanmcdirmid 12y ago
      Studying people is much harder than doing math proofs or experimenting with chemicals.
      - foobarqux 12y ago
        I meant that corporations should be trying to figure this stuff out, not academics.
        seanmcdirmid 12y ago
        They have the same problem as academics do, only without the benefit of being able to consistently apply the scientific method and good experimental practices (the only hope of cracking that nut).
        foobarqux 12y ago
        The difference is they have lots of funding and a large monetary incentive to do the research.
        seanmcdirmid 12y ago
        Their development teams have funding to build products, rarely do they have funding/resources/expertise to do "meta" research on processes.
        foobarqux 12y ago
        Obviously you wouldn't fund it through the development team budget, it would be a corporate level initiative.
- deleted 12y ago
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valleyer 12y ago
$AAPL ? Why not “Apple”?
- toephu2 12y ago
  he's trying to belittle the company
- faitswulff 12y ago
  It's shorthand on Twitter to refer to a company: https://twitter.com/search?q=%24AAPL&src=typd https://twitter.com/search?q=%24AAPL&src=typd
  - comex 12y ago
    In this case, it's the same number of characters as the longhand.
    - yen223 12y ago
      But $AAPL is clearer, because "Apple" may refer to the record company, or the fruit! (I'm stretching, I know.)
- sprawl_ 12y ago
  It's the stock symbol.
  - sukilot 12y ago
    With the $ sign?

UnoriginalGuy 12y ago

I agree that most companies get it wrong, but what is right? It seems like interviewing and recruiting is a field dominated by "sounds right, common sense" styles of thinking (like most HR) where there is no post-mortem of how well a candidate did in the next 6-24 months. Even if you look at most MBA programs, the stuff on recruiting and interviewing aren't as research and evidence based as you would expect, and instead you just get spoon fed a bunch of best practices seemingly out of thin air. I think programmers and technology companies in particular are very trend-following. For example, Microsoft decided to do some out-of-the-box questioning about circle manhole covers and suddenly tons of other companies had to have their own version. Google did CS algorithm questions, so everyone else had to have them also (even for jobs which use high level libraries like Java, C#, PHP, etc).

seanmcdirmid 12y ago
They get it wrong because no one knows how to do it right. Actually...evaluating human knowledge and behavior into a bunch of 1 hour interview slots doesn't lead to much accurate information.
- foobarqux 12y ago
  But no one seems to spend time on trying to figure out how to do it right or even how well the current methods perform.
  - seanmcdirmid 12y ago
    Studying people is much harder than doing math proofs or experimenting with chemicals.
    - foobarqux 12y ago
      I meant that corporations should be trying to figure this stuff out, not academics.
      - seanmcdirmid 12y ago
        They have the same problem as academics do, only without the benefit of being able to consistently apply the scientific method and good experimental practices (the only hope of cracking that nut).
        foobarqux 12y ago
        The difference is they have lots of funding and a large monetary incentive to do the research.
        seanmcdirmid 12y ago
        Their development teams have funding to build products, rarely do they have funding/resources/expertise to do "meta" research on processes.
        foobarqux 12y ago
        Obviously you wouldn't fund it through the development team budget, it would be a corporate level initiative.
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valleyer 12y ago

$AAPL ? Why not “Apple”?

toephu2 12y ago
he's trying to belittle the company
faitswulff 12y ago
It's shorthand on Twitter to refer to a company: https://twitter.com/search?q=%24AAPL&src=typd https://twitter.com/search?q=%24AAPL&src=typd
- comex 12y ago
  In this case, it's the same number of characters as the longhand.
  - yen223 12y ago
    But $AAPL is clearer, because "Apple" may refer to the record company, or the fruit! (I'm stretching, I know.)
sprawl_ 12y ago
It's the stock symbol.
- sukilot 12y ago
  With the $ sign?