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You said it yourself, they were preying on the vulnerable. To what extent exactly should these vulnerable people take personal responsibility? Why didn't you

You said it yourself, they were preying on the vulnerable. To what extent exactly should these vulnerable people take personal responsibility? Why didn't you mention that these colleges need to take some responsibility as well?

Alex3917 12y ago
> To what extent exactly should these vulnerable people take personal responsibility? I mean once they showed up and realized it wasn't a real college and they weren't being taught anything, that would have been the appropriate time to protest and try to get their money back, rather than staying for another 2-4 years to get the degree and hoping that no one notices that they didn't actually learn anything. > Why didn't you mention that these colleges need to take some responsibility as well? They should, but in this case they already got shut down. My feelings about for-profit colleges are basically the same as my feelings on the military. I.e. the military shouldn't be tricking kids into enlisting, but that that still doesn't give soldiers a free pass for going over to the middle east and killing innocent people.
- cafard 12y ago
  > I mean once they showed up and realized it wasn't a real college and they weren't being taught anything, that would have been the appropriate time to protest [etc] The people signing up were probably not those best prepared to evaluate the quality of schooling. It might have seemed a continuation what they saw in high school
ls66 12y ago
I think anyone who is capable of graduating from a college, even a flawed one, as she did, has a hard time portraying themselves as vulnerable. At what point is someone responsible. She even graduated, so she has a degree and can legally state that. While I'm happy to see educational institutions being viewed with more skepticism as to their value, I think her situation is pretty cut and dried. Many of us had the experience of getting out of college and for a number of reasons, like the economy, not being able to find a job in the field and having to find another way.

Alex3917 12y ago

> To what extent exactly should these vulnerable people take personal responsibility? I mean once they showed up and realized it wasn't a real college and they weren't being taught anything, that would have been the appropriate time to protest and try to get their money back, rather than staying for another 2-4 years to get the degree and hoping that no one notices that they didn't actually learn anything. > Why didn't you mention that these colleges need to take some responsibility as well? They should, but in this case they already got shut down. My feelings about for-profit colleges are basically the same as my feelings on the military. I.e. the military shouldn't be tricking kids into enlisting, but that that still doesn't give soldiers a free pass for going over to the middle east and killing innocent people.

cafard 12y ago
> I mean once they showed up and realized it wasn't a real college and they weren't being taught anything, that would have been the appropriate time to protest [etc] The people signing up were probably not those best prepared to evaluate the quality of schooling. It might have seemed a continuation what they saw in high school

ls66 12y ago

I think anyone who is capable of graduating from a college, even a flawed one, as she did, has a hard time portraying themselves as vulnerable. At what point is someone responsible. She even graduated, so she has a degree and can legally state that. While I'm happy to see educational institutions being viewed with more skepticism as to their value, I think her situation is pretty cut and dried. Many of us had the experience of getting out of college and for a number of reasons, like the economy, not being able to find a job in the field and having to find another way.