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GMO by itself may be safe but 99% of GMO plants sold are engineered to be able to be doused in pesticides which are NOT known to be safe for human consumption.

by guelo 12y ago

GMO by itself may be safe but 99% of GMO plants sold are engineered to be able to be doused in pesticides which are NOT known to be safe for human consumption. These pesticides have not been rigorously tested using double blind studies on humans.

fabian2k 12y ago
There are many studies on pesticide toxicity, but you can't really set the bar so high as to ask for the kind of double-blind human studies you would use for new drugs. In most cases such studies would simply be unethical, you can't just intentionally expose people to chemical you suspect might be harmful in studies.
- guelo 12y ago
  We're getting exposed to the chemicals anyways.
  - Oletros 12y ago
    Yes, we are exposed to chemical in almost every moment of our live
    - guelo 12y ago
      If you are suggesting that it is safe to ingest any and all chemicals without proof that they are safe you are a paid shill, an asshole, or a congressman.
      - Oletros 12y ago
        It says a lot of you if that is what you have understood. Are you here pranking us? Apart of insulting, of course.
bpodgursky 12y ago
Bt plants (like Bt corn) are specifically engineered to not require pesticides. So to start, your 99% is wildly inaccurate. Also, a lot of promising GMO projects focus around enriching vitamin content (golden rice) or making plants more drought-resistant. And about roundup-ready crops: "The EPA considered a "worst case" dietary risk model of an individual eating a lifetime of food derived entirely from glyphosate-sprayed fields with residues at their maximum levels. This model indicated that no adverse health effects would be expected under such conditions." "Early epidemiological studies have not found associations between long-term low-level exposure to glyphosate and any disease." (off of the wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate#Human http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate#Human)
- ppereira 12y ago
  Bt corn is specifically engineered to produce its own insecticide. You cannot wash it off. Its effect on Monarch butterflies and other insects is becoming known. The scientific consensus you mention has also drawn attention due to conflicts of interest from sources of funding.
  - Oletros 12y ago
    > Its effect on Monarch butterflies and other insects is becoming known. Source for that? > the scientific consensus you mention has also drawn attention due to conflicts of interest from sources of funding. source for that?
timlin 12y ago
In this context, "doused" is an emotional word and completely inaccurate. After my GMO corn and soybeans are about 12" high, I use a contact spray (glyphosate) at a rate of roughly 10 gal/acre to selectively kill weeds. If you would watch the sprayer in the field, you would note that the nozzles are emitting a very fine mist. To me, it is an incredible feat of science that such little spray is able to completely and selectively kill the weeds. Also, I'm not aware of ANY pesticides that are save for human consumption. To what are you referring? Source: On the side, I farm 35 acres planted using no-till and GMO corn and soybeans. I hire a crop consultant to help me rotate pesticides to avoid developing glyphosate-resistant weeds.
- guelo 12y ago
  Hope you're wearing appropriate gear when you're applying this poison in your "side" farm. https://gmandchemicalindustry9.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/glyphosate-application.jpeg https://gmandchemicalindustry9.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/g... Unfortunately there's no protective gear for eaters of your corn.
  - Oletros 12y ago
    Can you explain me why glyphosate is bad and copper sulfate or rotenone are good?

by guelo 12y ago

fabian2k 12y ago

There are many studies on pesticide toxicity, but you can't really set the bar so high as to ask for the kind of double-blind human studies you would use for new drugs. In most cases such studies would simply be unethical, you can't just intentionally expose people to chemical you suspect might be harmful in studies.

guelo 12y ago
We're getting exposed to the chemicals anyways.
- Oletros 12y ago
  Yes, we are exposed to chemical in almost every moment of our live
  - guelo 12y ago
    If you are suggesting that it is safe to ingest any and all chemicals without proof that they are safe you are a paid shill, an asshole, or a congressman.
    - Oletros 12y ago
      It says a lot of you if that is what you have understood. Are you here pranking us? Apart of insulting, of course.

bpodgursky 12y ago

Bt plants (like Bt corn) are specifically engineered to not require pesticides. So to start, your 99% is wildly inaccurate. Also, a lot of promising GMO projects focus around enriching vitamin content (golden rice) or making plants more drought-resistant. And about roundup-ready crops: "The EPA considered a "worst case" dietary risk model of an individual eating a lifetime of food derived entirely from glyphosate-sprayed fields with residues at their maximum levels. This model indicated that no adverse health effects would be expected under such conditions." "Early epidemiological studies have not found associations between long-term low-level exposure to glyphosate and any disease." (off of the wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate#Human http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate#Human)

ppereira 12y ago
Bt corn is specifically engineered to produce its own insecticide. You cannot wash it off. Its effect on Monarch butterflies and other insects is becoming known. The scientific consensus you mention has also drawn attention due to conflicts of interest from sources of funding.
- Oletros 12y ago
  > Its effect on Monarch butterflies and other insects is becoming known. Source for that? > the scientific consensus you mention has also drawn attention due to conflicts of interest from sources of funding. source for that?

timlin 12y ago

In this context, "doused" is an emotional word and completely inaccurate. After my GMO corn and soybeans are about 12" high, I use a contact spray (glyphosate) at a rate of roughly 10 gal/acre to selectively kill weeds. If you would watch the sprayer in the field, you would note that the nozzles are emitting a very fine mist. To me, it is an incredible feat of science that such little spray is able to completely and selectively kill the weeds. Also, I'm not aware of ANY pesticides that are save for human consumption. To what are you referring? Source: On the side, I farm 35 acres planted using no-till and GMO corn and soybeans. I hire a crop consultant to help me rotate pesticides to avoid developing glyphosate-resistant weeds.

guelo 12y ago
Hope you're wearing appropriate gear when you're applying this poison in your "side" farm. https://gmandchemicalindustry9.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/glyphosate-application.jpeg https://gmandchemicalindustry9.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/g... Unfortunately there's no protective gear for eaters of your corn.
- Oletros 12y ago
  Can you explain me why glyphosate is bad and copper sulfate or rotenone are good?