I guess in the end you are saying you trust the motives of governments and I'm saying I don't. It's fine to argue that but lets hope neither of us end up on th

I guess in the end you are saying you trust the motives of governments and I'm saying I don't. It's fine to argue that but lets hope neither of us end up on the wrong side of government in a legal case for example. The UK government has been breaking client attorney privilege with these tools. The people who are meant to be serving our best interest are clearly often serving themselves. >> I doubt those spying tools are used for private interests It's proven from the Snowden papers and elsewhere that America uses it's spying power for industrial espionage. A program with limitless powers such as this will lead to limitless abuses. I'm all for governments being able to individually monitor bad people but it seems to me the old mechanisms are still the most effective and that particularly mass surveillance, but also deep and difficult to detect hacks like this make me think that everything we believe about democracy is probably false and that we actually live in a kleptocracy. I still think that we know very little about the people using these systems for the wrong reasons. I think government should be reporting them where abuse occurs; it would make me feel a lot safer about their use. If there are never any abuses reported you can be sure that they are many.