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Besides questions about revenue and such, can I just say that I absolutely love the landing page. No gimmicks, no parallax, no videos, no fake testimonials, no
by jonheller 12y ago
Besides questions about revenue and such, can I just say that I absolutely love the landing page. No gimmicks, no parallax, no videos, no fake testimonials, no hero images, no marquees. Just good copy.
Not sure if this is because of how quickly this blew up, but well done.
- cmikec 12y agoThanks! Yeah, honestly, after deciding to launch this we released a really minimal landing page which I saved here: http://getmagicnow.com/index-old.html http://getmagicnow.com/index-old.html - As you can see I made that in about 20 minutes, and was not expecting this. After someone posted it on Product Hunt I spent whatever time I could polishing it up. In general though, I agree, simple websites are much better. Thanks for the kind words.
- carlosdp 12y agofyi, there's a typo in the FAQ: "we'll let you know the total price so you can confim"
- cmikec 12y agoThank you. Fixed!
- heliumcraft 12y agoIs this available in Canada?
- cmikec 12y agoWe can't do everything in Canada but we can definitely do some things. Try us.
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- sidcool 12y agoThe font on the new page much better.
- petercooper 12y agoWhile you have changed the copy and a few other things a little, I was quite amused at how people on ProductHunt considered it untrustworthy mostly through virtue of using Times New Roman rather than a nice Sans. An interesting example in the psychology of running counter to fashion..! :)
- ipavl 12y agoThat was my thought when I looked at index-old. It kind of makes it look like an early-mid 2000s website, as well as unfinished.
- Springtime 12y agoThe typeface of the older design appears as Helvetica on OSX. Edit: realized this is likely due to changing the default font years ago, unbeknownst improving the experience of sites like these. New typeface is certainly an improvement either way.
- nicky0 12y agoTimes in Chrome on OS X
- BillFranklin 12y agoNot just the design. No Terms and Conditions, no incorporation, no IDs of owners/operators - really doesn't seem like a legitimate business (despite money being handled by Stripe).
- maxbrown 12y agoGreat MVP, great focus. Few thoughts - Make sure top phone # is tappable on mobile browsers. Examples that don't make me question your ability to deliver - airline example seems to be hiding complexity (I question it as I read it), others really good
- subless 12y agoIf you visit the direct link: http://www.getmagicnow.com/access.php http://www.getmagicnow.com/access.php without adding an email address it still says that "You've been placed on the waiting list!". Simple error, but easy to fix so there is no confusion. Great service!
- downandout 12y agoIf you visit this link, you can pay them $5,000: http://getmagicnow.com/pay.php?p=500000 http://getmagicnow.com/pay.php?p=500000 Payment pages should really be linked to an order ID of some sort, without which customers shouldn't be allowed to pay. Otherwise, lots of things can go wrong. Depending on how they have configured things on the server side, a customer could change the amount being paid and the system would consider the ticket paid, cheating them out of money. Or a customer could follow an old link and wind up paying twice if they thought it didn't go through the first time.
- jboggan 12y agoIf you visit this link, they can pay you $5,000: https://magic.bettir.com/?p=-500000 https://magic.bettir.com/?p=-500000
- octatoan 12y agoWait, what?
- codygman 12y agoWhoa, seriously? I'm going to guess you're joking since they probably implemented "customer order of amount x".
- jboggan 12y agoEdit: they've fixed this now. I'm not joking, click on it and try to pay. It shows an invoice of ($5,000), a.k.a. $5000 negative dollars. I didn't enter real payment information to see what happens next because of really idiotic interpretations of what constitutes "hacking", but it is a really bad design choice on their part that took me about half a second to find. Founder, if you're reading this: was this an in-house build or did you outsource this?
- raldi 12y agoHow come you removed the part of the FAQ that mentioned your fee? I think everyone knows you have to charge one and we're totally cool about it. Did you just feel that subject was best saved for later in the signup process, or did you want to keep the door open for alternate means of revenue?
- ccvannorman 12y agoIt's part of the secret sauce. If Magic is worth something, then so is knowing their numbers.
- cmikec 12y agoWe noticed that people were more confused by the ambiguity of the nondescript fee, than us just saying that we'd tell you the total amount. You are right though, we do need to figure out a better way to explain this. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know.
- raldi 12y ago"We quote you one simple price that includes everything: The goods, the delivery, any expected gratuity, all service charges including our own, and any applicable taxes and fees. What you see is what you pay."
- iandanforth 12y agoCan they use that verbatim? Because they should.
- raldi 12y agoSure, consider it a gift. Now go forth and change the world. (Or at least the world of laziness.)
- bhaumik 12y agoHm, well here's a startling difference between the HN and Product Hunt community. The PH comments: This website looks extremely untrustworthy, purely from a design standpoint. I feel a lot of potential users would be put off by this! Interesting idea. Terrible site design. Unclear if they're charging for this added convenience. http://www.producthunt.com/posts/magic http://www.producthunt.com/posts/magic
- cmikec 12y agoThis was pretty funny, actually. They saw the old version I mentioned above. I was surprised when someone posted it on there and I was actually glad that the reaction was lukewarm, because we didn't think we were ready to launch. And then...boom.
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- polynomial 12y agoTime to trade up the chain?
- slaction 12y agoProductHunt is just a useless hype machine for starts that don't hold any real value at all.
- Siecje 12y agoOne thing is that it says chatting is free and there are no hidden fees. It doesn't say how much extra it is costing.
- lifeisstillgood 12y agoTip is included. I suspect just like the concierge at a hotel, the cut comes from the provider of the service (a dozen roses for 100 bucks - they can afford some affiliate fees from that)
- biomimic 12y agoJust take a look at Google's initial page when they started.
- jgwest 12y ago+1 no giant full-width+full-height responsive image Okay this looks really interesting! And with no full-width+full-height responsive image, I can proceed... it's something different, something not exactly 100% what you would expect... So intriguing... so what, dear MagicMan, is it? Would you kindly answer dear Sir, because I'm uncertain, and curiously in need of an answer before I text myself down the rabbit hole... IT JUST LOOKS SO INTERESTING!!! ;-)
- noonespecial 12y agoIts also refreshing that afore mentioned good copy got right to the point and told us what they do. No silly vaguenesses about a coming awesome product that they never really describe and then some email sign-up so that they can notify you when they actually have something to sell you. Just what they can do for me right now. Hat's off. Good luck.
- api 12y agoBut how can you disrupt without parallax? ... And thanks. I thought I was the only one who thought the video fad was dumb. Now it's just a toll booth for getting a product presented, and I never watch them. How about others? Do you find videos actually useful or are they just glitz?
- click170 12y agoGlitz IMO. Annoying glitz too if they include information in the videos that isn't in text form on their website. Videos play at one speed, I can't fast forward the video if I'm a faster "video-watcher" like I can with reading. And if I'm on a VPN I'd rather avoid loading the video altogether if I can avoid it, which is what my browser plugins are for. Well, perhaps I could just watch the videos faster, interesting thought experiment.
- xccx 12y agoif youtube in focus on chrome, then shift+> for faster playback
- ipavl 12y ago> Do you find videos actually useful or are they just glitz? If I'm legitimately interested in a service and want to know how it works, sure, but if I just want a quick overview to decide if I'm interested I'd rather have something simple like some text and images.
- Procrastes 12y agoI hardly ever watch product videos. I'm usually in locations where It would be rude and I don't want to put in earphones just to find out what's going on. But I'm a curmudgeon, and may be an outlier.
- libraryatnight 12y agoI groan when my questions aren't answered in print on the page, I don't want to watch a video either.
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- lcfcjs1 12y agoWow you sound like a real hacker lol