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I am the fold

77 points by GarethX 12y ago

showsover 12y ago
Is it meant to be headache-inducing? http://i.imgur.com/9nJ8cRR.png http://i.imgur.com/9nJ8cRR.png
- josephpmay 12y ago
  That is not what it is supposed to look like. What browser are you using?
  - showsover 12y ago
    Both Firefox 35.0.1 and IE 11. Windows 8.1
    - cadab 12y ago
      And Chrome 40.0 on Windows 8.1 for me
      - gravskorpa 12y ago
        Same for Chrome 40 on OS X
    - eCa 12y ago
      Looks like esalmans image for me on FF35.0.1/Win8.1.
- esalman 12y ago
  Supposed to look like this- http://i.imgur.com/INkpeMZ.png http://i.imgur.com/INkpeMZ.png
- slazaro 12y ago
  Same here, Firefox 35.0.1, Windows 7.
rnhmjoj 12y ago
Interesting. There are several clusters: 360, 650, 960, 1555. If it only shows unique heights, without information on how common it is, how is it possible that there are so many variations around a single value? Are there so many devices with different size? I would have expected to see fewer lines.
- Stormcaller 12y ago
  Well the data sent is "window.innerHeight" so if 1920x1080 is a popular screen resolution, some people will be using windows XP which will have 30 px taskbar size, and some people will be using 40 px taskbars with windows 7. Then some people will have browsers "not maximized" so they will be missing a few pixels too, and so on. So from single height value, we have many variations differing by few pixels. Then, I think, we can gather some popularity info from this, if there is many variation around 1080 and less around 1200, this would mean the former is more popular. So we don't need devices with different sizes but just a few different software choices. or so I think.
- stegosaurus 12y ago
  Without knowing the specific data item collected, browser sizes can vary given constant screen resolution. Just a few guesses off the top of my head: Font size for the window title-bar, for the bookmark bar, for the tabs. Browser toolbars, whether or not title bar exists, whether or not bookmark bar is enabled. Whether or not window title-bar is enabled. Status bar, task bar (could be at the side). Two windows stacked vertically on a portrait monitor. And so forth.
neals 12y ago
I'd like one of those *x4512 screens, please.
- glaberficken 12y ago
  Portrait oriented screens?
amelius 12y ago
What happens when you are surfing at a zoom-level unequal to 100%?
- JibberMeTimbers 12y ago
  If you zoom in, it becomes a much smaller number. So, you are right that the zoom level affects the values recorded.
tmanderson 12y ago
This is why "the fold" should never be a hard number. You can still design for a larger portion of the initial viewport with percentage based "folds" (along with content).
HackinOut 12y ago
Before this went down, the highest recorded fold was at 987654px. Somebody had fun with the experiment or has a nice 1755K screen :)
iest 12y ago
Thanks for the share guys! I am the creator of the site. I had some issues to begin with, where some fine folks were abusing the site. I think they're all pretty much tied up now though. I've got some ideas about posts I could write about this project (from technical details to how the data stacks up) — is there anything in particular you guys think I should write about?

I am the fold

77 points by GarethX 12y ago

showsover 12y ago

Is it meant to be headache-inducing? http://i.imgur.com/9nJ8cRR.png http://i.imgur.com/9nJ8cRR.png

josephpmay 12y ago
That is not what it is supposed to look like. What browser are you using?
- showsover 12y ago
  Both Firefox 35.0.1 and IE 11. Windows 8.1
  - cadab 12y ago
    And Chrome 40.0 on Windows 8.1 for me
    - gravskorpa 12y ago
      Same for Chrome 40 on OS X
  - eCa 12y ago
    Looks like esalmans image for me on FF35.0.1/Win8.1.
esalman 12y ago
Supposed to look like this- http://i.imgur.com/INkpeMZ.png http://i.imgur.com/INkpeMZ.png
slazaro 12y ago
Same here, Firefox 35.0.1, Windows 7.

rnhmjoj 12y ago

Interesting. There are several clusters: 360, 650, 960, 1555. If it only shows unique heights, without information on how common it is, how is it possible that there are so many variations around a single value? Are there so many devices with different size? I would have expected to see fewer lines.

Stormcaller 12y ago
Well the data sent is "window.innerHeight" so if 1920x1080 is a popular screen resolution, some people will be using windows XP which will have 30 px taskbar size, and some people will be using 40 px taskbars with windows 7. Then some people will have browsers "not maximized" so they will be missing a few pixels too, and so on. So from single height value, we have many variations differing by few pixels. Then, I think, we can gather some popularity info from this, if there is many variation around 1080 and less around 1200, this would mean the former is more popular. So we don't need devices with different sizes but just a few different software choices. or so I think.
stegosaurus 12y ago
Without knowing the specific data item collected, browser sizes can vary given constant screen resolution. Just a few guesses off the top of my head: Font size for the window title-bar, for the bookmark bar, for the tabs. Browser toolbars, whether or not title bar exists, whether or not bookmark bar is enabled. Whether or not window title-bar is enabled. Status bar, task bar (could be at the side). Two windows stacked vertically on a portrait monitor. And so forth.

neals 12y ago

I'd like one of those *x4512 screens, please.

glaberficken 12y ago
Portrait oriented screens?

amelius 12y ago

What happens when you are surfing at a zoom-level unequal to 100%?

JibberMeTimbers 12y ago
If you zoom in, it becomes a much smaller number. So, you are right that the zoom level affects the values recorded.

tmanderson 12y ago

This is why "the fold" should never be a hard number. You can still design for a larger portion of the initial viewport with percentage based "folds" (along with content).

HackinOut 12y ago

Before this went down, the highest recorded fold was at 987654px. Somebody had fun with the experiment or has a nice 1755K screen :)

iest 12y ago

Thanks for the share guys! I am the creator of the site. I had some issues to begin with, where some fine folks were abusing the site. I think they're all pretty much tied up now though. I've got some ideas about posts I could write about this project (from technical details to how the data stacks up) — is there anything in particular you guys think I should write about?