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Oh the Irony since the United States of America was founded by Terrorists.
by transfire 12y ago
Oh the Irony since the United States of America was founded by Terrorists.
- Lawtonfogle 12y agoLiving in the southern portion of the USA, I get some mean looks when I wish people "Happy Treason Day" on July 4th.
- stefantalpalaru 12y agoI heard a brit saying "happy colonial betrayal day" :-)
- josefresco 12y agoCare to elaborate? ...not that it's relevant to this discussion.
- DINKDINK 12y agoThe United States was founded by a group of revolutionaries attacking the British state.
- josefresco 12y agoWe all know that, but did they engage in terrorism? It's a pretty specific definition, simple rebelling against any authority in any manor does not qualify one as a "terrorist".
- seanflyon 12y ago> It's a pretty specific definition Please elaborate. I have not heard this specific definition.
- anon808 12y agoTerrorism: the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. I'm pretty certain American revolutionaries used violence and intimidation against British soldiers and British property in the pursuit of political aims. Do you disagree?
- josefresco 12y ago"violence and intimidation against British soldiers" Read that line again - I don't consider actions (leading to or during a full scale conflict) against opposing soldiers as terrorism in the "modern sense" of the word. Yes war is terror, terrorizing and many invading armies throughout history have used "terror" as part of their strategy. I feel as though we are drifting too far from useful discussion - I will disengage with respect.
- anonbanker 12y agoThe Boston tea party saw a government official burned with hot tar, then humiliated by being covered in feathers. All while burning down a harbor.
- e12e 12y agoI think you missed the part where, if you're fighting for, say the independence of Iraq from an invading force, you're likely to end up on a "terrorist" watch-list, even if you only ever used to fire artillery on invading soldiers.
- escaped_hn 12y agoI think he's trying to imply that the current definition of terrorist according to the us gov would put the founding fathers as a match based on what they did.
- josefresco 12y agoWeak assertion (IMHO) based on a heavy amount of snark.
- tptacek 12y agoThis is definitely message- board- clever, but I'm not sure what it's supposed to mean. Stipulate that the United States was founded by terrorists. Now what? What's the implication of that fact on public policy today?
- dolant 12y agoIt means if you'd oppose yourself at some point in history then your ideology is contradictory and invalid.
- fnordfnordfnord 12y agoHe's probably just trying to point out that the founders would likely be on terrorist watch lists today.
- tptacek 12y agoIf you actually believe the founders to have been terrorists, what's interesting about that?
- e12e 12y agoYou know, I found this list of google hits interesting in light of this sub-thread. Now obviously, I should probably have substituted "Britain" for "United Kingdom"... but still -- who's under the rule of which over-reaching global power these days?: https://www.google.no/search?q=american+war+freedom+united+kingdom